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Ant-Reloaded 01/24/2023 12:14 AM
Here’s the naughty list for vendors with questionable standards.
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Ant-Reloaded 01/24/2023 12:19 AM
Appears Mr Mitraxtrax is back once more.
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Ant-Reloaded 01/24/2023 12:41 AM
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Ant-Reloaded 01/24/2023 1:36 AM
Look in the background that’s his toliet y’all
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JD1969 01/24/2023 2:59 AM
Nasty! Ass Tweaker . He needs to disappear
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LeisaB44 01/24/2023 3:54 AM
Ugh I’m so grateful for NEVER getting anything from him. Really posting his pictures of the process is such a major turn off to want to put his stuff inside your body plus the added attention like Ant said he would be a huge liability for keeping this beautiful plant legal & available.
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RedLady 01/24/2023 8:23 AM
I seen that too! He was bashing Wonderland Gardens extract on one of my posts a while back lol. Saying how their technique is all wrong and his is the right way😬 Glad I've never bought from him either. Also very tacky of one vendor publicly bashing another. Very unprofessional all around. People like him are the reason kratom's legality is in danger😑
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Deedadon 01/24/2023 12:50 PM
It turns my stomach not the bathroom and on the floor🤢 oh my goodness
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EqualRoof 01/24/2023 1:01 PM
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kendell 01/24/2023 4:44 PM
if we can use this for scam or griever profiles I'll post the list here
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BD 01/24/2023 4:52 PM
It's supposed to be for vendors but I'll find out if you can.
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kendell 01/24/2023 5:01 PM
ok, no rush. Susan just posted something else, check advocacy investigations.
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kendell
if we can use this for scam or griever profiles I'll post the list here
Ant-Reloaded 01/24/2023 5:05 PM
NO
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kendell 01/24/2023 5:07 PM
gpood enough, I'll post the list in advocacy
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Ant-Reloaded
Look in the background that’s his toliet y’all
Cae 01/24/2023 5:17 PM
He needed the tiles for aesthetic 🤣
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Ant-Reloaded
Look in the background that’s his toliet y’all
Steeler45$ 01/24/2023 5:19 PM
What the fuck of all fucks
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Ant-Reloaded
Look in the background that’s his toliet y’all
Overdose_hippy 01/24/2023 5:20 PM
Is that mitraxtract "lab"🤣🤣🤣
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Legit crappy kratom yall
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Cae
He needed the tiles for aesthetic 🤣
Ant-Reloaded 01/24/2023 5:45 PM
Only clean thing in that room
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Ant-Reloaded
Only clean thing in that room
Cae 01/24/2023 5:46 PM
Is it clean tho? That grout needs to be scrubbed
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Cae
Is it clean tho? That grout needs to be scrubbed
Ant-Reloaded 01/24/2023 5:46 PM
Lol clean for his standard
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g0tkiLt? 01/24/2023 5:47 PM
When rogue peanuts take up all the space on your bedroom lab floor.. why not move operations into the bathroom
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I'm sure he was just "multitasking"
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Ant-Reloaded
Appears Mr Mitraxtrax is back once more.
Reeko 01/24/2023 8:11 PM
What name is he going under?
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He's done for already lol he doesn't last long
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g0tkiLt? 01/24/2023 9:07 PM
Where is the peanut?
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kendell 01/24/2023 9:08 PM
we so need this channel to stay around LOL
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BD 01/24/2023 9:36 PM
I need to join that sub
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Ant-Reloaded
Appears Mr Mitraxtrax is back once more.
ThatOnePlaceGJ 01/25/2023 2:33 AM
Is that on the floor in his bathroom? 🤦‍♂️ the plot thickens (edited)
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ThatOnePlaceGJ
Is that on the floor in his bathroom? 🤦‍♂️ the plot thickens (edited)
Matt-Kr8tS 01/25/2023 2:53 AM
crystallized pee?
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RedLady 01/25/2023 2:56 AM
Is this the labs from the bathroom extractor?
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RedLady
Is this the labs from the bathroom extractor?
ThatOnePlaceGJ 01/25/2023 3:09 AM
Likely fake- and even if it weren't methanol is the solvent. Produces an extract that has been shown to be cytotoxic to the liver.
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Horrible solvent
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ThatOnePlaceGJ
Likely fake- and even if it weren't methanol is the solvent. Produces an extract that has been shown to be cytotoxic to the liver.
RedLady 01/25/2023 3:13 AM
I figured he just stole the lab image from another vendor or literally made one up. And yeah I read he's using dangerous solvents through reddit.
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ThatOnePlaceGJ 01/25/2023 3:16 AM
Well these "labs" show "safe" levels of solvents. The issue is- they're not accounting for potential cytotoxicity. They're also not really accounting for how often kratom is consumed or following ANY food laws. Every single food law in existence bans the use of methanol as as a solvent (with literally only 2 specific exceptions) . Since kraotm is in a grey area it doesn't have to follow those laws, BUT any vendor worth their salt looks at kratom as a consumable and uses food grade processes to make sure people aren't getting sick or consuming those toxic chemicals
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Matt-Kr8tS 01/25/2023 3:22 AM
have to ask the order number to the lab directly, so we can save others from getting sick
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RedLady
Is this the labs from the bathroom extractor?
Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 3:39 AM
Yes !!!!
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He should go into as much effort of cleaning his damn house and “lab” as he did on those fake labs. Jd called it Mitraxtrax is a tweaker like he has been caught three times. I’m gonna fashion him up a really nicely worded cease and desist letter. It’ll be quite colorful and I’ll need some help from everyone to add shit into it. Oh faking the labs, we got any digital forensic folks in the room who’d be capable of that ? Anyone who could frame that up I’ll go at him over that and figure out some crime or something that could be vaguely interpreted as a crime and have him peeking out his windows worried about it. (edited)
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He was worried when I was leaving him voicemails
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We need to test his shit that people are holding onto
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Ant-Reloaded
We need to test his shit that people are holding onto
g0tkiLt? 01/25/2023 3:48 AM
This!!! Without a doubt
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g0tkiLt?
This!!! Without a doubt
Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 3:48 AM
That’ll fuck him up
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Hands are tied with calling anyone
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g0tkiLt? 01/25/2023 3:55 AM
Imo even if that set of labs are legit. Who knows wat sample was submitted
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Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 3:55 AM
Cops get called they could have a circle jerk press conference and have it looking like that meme with the cops standing around the table like good job guys you busted a meth head with the internet’s help. That’s all we need is they held a press conference and then Virginia announces a ban. If there’s something bad in there or the folks we know going to the hospital well the news is likely to make that a statewide story. You Virginia vendors get together and pay me an amount to go hand deliver a cease and desist and I’ll trip and fall onto him. He’ll be tweaking and shit will be in his house he won’t call the cops.
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g0tkiLt?
Imo even if that set of labs are legit. Who knows wat sample was submitted
Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 3:55 AM
He was asking a vendor for a copy of her labs 2 weeks ago
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g0tkiLt? 01/25/2023 3:55 AM
Aaand there it is
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Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 3:56 AM
This mfer is a problem
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That’s like on the borderline of identity theft
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Kentucky borders virgina and these mfers were foaming for Kratom few years ago
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He’s doing this shit way too close to my ass. Anywhere is bad but he does something real stupid and someone gets to him before us and that story ends up all over the internet during legislative session im really gonna make his life stressful.
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Ant-Reloaded
He’s doing this shit way too close to my ass. Anywhere is bad but he does something real stupid and someone gets to him before us and that story ends up all over the internet during legislative session im really gonna make his life stressful.
g0tkiLt? 01/25/2023 4:17 AM
And u kno exactly when it shouldn't happen... its gonna happen. All the negative press during a time when it's the last thing anyone wants or needs
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g0tkiLt?
And u kno exactly when it shouldn't happen... its gonna happen. All the negative press during a time when it's the last thing anyone wants or needs
Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 4:38 AM
Exactly!
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RedLady
Is this the labs from the bathroom extractor?
Reeko 01/25/2023 3:15 PM
I love how it says Fenix Kratom, but he was literally posting under Fenix kratom denying that he is the same guy as mitraxtrax (edited)
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kendell 01/25/2023 3:18 PM
another bad actor exposed. I love this server
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ThatOnePlaceGJ
Well these "labs" show "safe" levels of solvents. The issue is- they're not accounting for potential cytotoxicity. They're also not really accounting for how often kratom is consumed or following ANY food laws. Every single food law in existence bans the use of methanol as as a solvent (with literally only 2 specific exceptions) . Since kraotm is in a grey area it doesn't have to follow those laws, BUT any vendor worth their salt looks at kratom as a consumable and uses food grade processes to make sure people aren't getting sick or consuming those toxic chemicals
Reeko 01/25/2023 3:29 PM
Those labs are from after the whole situation happened. Plus he had multiple different extracts. Whose to say it's even the same one
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g0tkiLt? 01/25/2023 3:43 PM
"IAmKnownByManyNames"
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Reeko
Those labs are from after the whole situation happened. Plus he had multiple different extracts. Whose to say it's even the same one
Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 3:43 PM
He was asking vendors for copies of their labs three days ago
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g0tkiLt? 01/25/2023 3:43 PM
Remember
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Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 3:44 PM
I had someone send me a SS (edited)
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Ant-Reloaded
He was asking vendors for copies of their labs three days ago
Reeko 01/25/2023 3:45 PM
Yeah. They're fake for sure. We gotta go those extracts tested.
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Reeko
Yeah. They're fake for sure. We gotta go those extracts tested.
Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 3:45 PM
You have some ?
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Reeko 01/25/2023 3:45 PM
I don't. But I think moonchaser does.
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Or morphiend
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Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 3:46 PM
I used my last regent on dumbass mit monster
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Reeko 01/25/2023 3:46 PM
Mooncusser I mean
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g0tkiLt? 01/25/2023 3:46 PM
Wat regent? Like the basic ones we can get online?
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Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 3:46 PM
DaniYella does I’ll ask her. We talk a whole lot she’ll have no issue doing it
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Ant-Reloaded
DaniYella does I’ll ask her. We talk a whole lot she’ll have no issue doing it
g0tkiLt? 01/25/2023 3:47 PM
That's prolly the best option imo
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Reeko 01/25/2023 3:47 PM
Yeah. This guy has to be stopped somehow.
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Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 3:48 PM
Mine were all from nik public safety
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But If it does all the same then any will work I’m gonna order a smear kit
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It does good on analogues
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Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 4:01 PM
Is this sufficient? Me and Chris used the last good one lol
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Ant-Reloaded
Is this sufficient? Me and Chris used the last good one lol
Steeler45$ 01/25/2023 4:02 PM
That was a crazy day 😂
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Steeler45$
That was a crazy day 😂
Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 4:03 PM
Loooool hell yeah it was 😄😄
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Lol I ran across his video the other day Imma upload it
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Reeko
Mooncusser I mean
mooncusser901 01/25/2023 4:03 PM
I still have it yea
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mooncusser901
I still have it yea
Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 4:11 PM
Oh good yes
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Can I get it ? I’ll cover your shipping
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Lol she was like wtf !!! She later did like wow lol
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Steeler45$ 01/25/2023 4:13 PM
I remember 😭
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Down2Earth 01/25/2023 4:14 PM
I saved the same ass clip 😂😂
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Cropped it to the “children” part too
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I remember 😭
Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 4:14 PM
Loooool. She was trying to be kind to him and he dug his own grave and he ain’t popped back
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Down2Earth 01/25/2023 4:14 PM
That guy was whacked
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Cropped it to the “children” part too
Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 4:15 PM
Right there as a little reminder lol. He ain’t ever popping back he’s got a warrant out from NJ for research chemical distribution
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EqualRoof 01/25/2023 4:15 PM
I love kratom. And I love my kids. But do I give my kids kratom? FUCK NO!!!
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EqualRoof
I love kratom. And I love my kids. But do I give my kids kratom? FUCK NO!!!
Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 4:15 PM
Hhahahaha
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Me and Chris were getting attacked over that shit until it all came out
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Right there as a little reminder lol. He ain’t ever popping back he’s got a warrant out from NJ for research chemical distribution
Down2Earth 01/25/2023 4:16 PM
Good eff that guy !! I felt bad for Emily he took advantage of her kind hearted ness, but thankfully the truth came out
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Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 4:16 PM
The moment I saw his comment history i knew then and it just unravels
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Down2Earth
Good eff that guy !! I felt bad for Emily he took advantage of her kind hearted ness, but thankfully the truth came out
Ant-Reloaded 01/25/2023 4:16 PM
Yes exactly exactly what he did
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She’s a genuine good person
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Down2Earth 01/25/2023 4:18 PM
100% !!
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ThatOnePlaceGJ 01/27/2023 7:10 PM
Mr. Bathroom extractor doesn't appear to be Derek from MitraXtrax. It's a new account from cbd_ohm I believe. He's not selling his extracts so I guess there's no harm in consuming his own toilet baked stuff. It may be worth apologizing for the mix up, I know we're just being diligent because new accounts popping up posting some bathroom extractions are shady af. (edited)
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Ant-Reloaded 01/27/2023 7:11 PM
Mitraxtrax lives in Virginia
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ThatOnePlaceGJ
Mr. Bathroom extractor doesn't appear to be Derek from MitraXtrax. It's a new account from cbd_ohm I believe. He's not selling his extracts so I guess there's no harm in consuming his own toilet baked stuff. It may be worth apologizing for the mix up, I know we're just being diligent because new accounts popping up posting some bathroom extractions are shady af. (edited)
Ant-Reloaded 01/27/2023 7:12 PM
You’re prob right. Just odd they’re both in VA
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ThatOnePlaceGJ
Mr. Bathroom extractor doesn't appear to be Derek from MitraXtrax. It's a new account from cbd_ohm I believe. He's not selling his extracts so I guess there's no harm in consuming his own toilet baked stuff. It may be worth apologizing for the mix up, I know we're just being diligent because new accounts popping up posting some bathroom extractions are shady af. (edited)
Morphfiend 01/27/2023 7:12 PM
He's not mitramax I know him lol
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He is cbd
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I saw people going at him on reddit yesterday
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Ant-Reloaded 01/27/2023 7:14 PM
Hmmmm. Well I def have been wrong before. Just odd they’re out of the same state and same conditions. But if you said it’s not him and you know him then you know better than I do.
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ThatOnePlaceGJ 01/27/2023 7:14 PM
Derek has tried to crop up under new accoutns and the pictures were VERY similar plus the whole similar location thing.
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Morphfiend 01/27/2023 7:15 PM
It is strange but he's not. His chemical knowledge is way greater than what mitras was too
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Although he doesn't sell
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It is strange but he's not. His chemical knowledge is way greater than what mitras was too
Ant-Reloaded 01/27/2023 7:15 PM
I can see that
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ThatOnePlaceGJ 01/27/2023 7:15 PM
I recognize the grumpy demeanor though. He wasn't gaslighting just calling everybody psychos.
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Derek Gaslights and manipulates. Plus CBD is smarter lol.
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Morphfiend 01/27/2023 7:15 PM
Yeah fs
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Mitra is probably lurking though I imagine
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ThatOnePlaceGJ 01/27/2023 7:16 PM
Also the plates. CBD has always scraped off plates. No peanuts either. That's a dead givaway
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Morphfiend 01/27/2023 7:16 PM
Probably trying to sell more of his denatured extracts
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Ant-Reloaded
DaniYella does I’ll ask her. We talk a whole lot she’ll have no issue doing it
BD 01/27/2023 7:17 PM
How is @Daniyell @Just.Kitten asked about her. Sorry but I saw her meme mentioned here and I'd like to know she's ok as well. I miss seeing her
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ThatOnePlaceGJ
Also the plates. CBD has always scraped off plates. No peanuts either. That's a dead givaway
Morphfiend 01/27/2023 7:17 PM
The peanuts I totally forgot lmfao 😂😂😂
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Making that peanut allergy inducing extracts
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BD 01/27/2023 7:18 PM
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Mitra Mike Extractz 01/27/2023 7:18 PM
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Morphfiend 01/27/2023 7:18 PM
Imagine he gave some to someone with a high allergy could've been terrible
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Mitra Mike Extractz 01/27/2023 7:18 PM
Hey I like peanuts 😂
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How y'all doing tonight up in here I see chillen
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This is like hanging out at a party in a different room of the house 🤣
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How y'all doing woot woot
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BD
How is @Daniyell @Just.Kitten asked about her. Sorry but I saw her meme mentioned here and I'd like to know she's ok as well. I miss seeing her
Daniyell 01/27/2023 7:19 PM
Heyyyy girl!!!!
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Mitra Mike Extractz
How y'all doing tonight up in here I see chillen
EqualRoof 01/27/2023 7:19 PM
I’m feeling good, Mike! Partially thanks to your bees knees, yellow! That and I had some Delta met five today, and some D down to earth vintage 20 year, so today has been a good day
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Daniyell 01/27/2023 7:20 PM
Work has been soooo busy I am DRAINED 😫
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Mitra Mike Extractz 01/27/2023 7:20 PM
Nice!
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And oh work does that I'm about done myself t h ugh
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BD 01/27/2023 7:20 PM
@Daniyell yay! You're back! Hi how are you!
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Daniyell
Work has been soooo busy I am DRAINED 😫
EqualRoof 01/27/2023 7:20 PM
You were at a ski resort, right Danielle?
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BD
@Daniyell yay! You're back! Hi how are you!
Daniyell 01/27/2023 7:20 PM
I’m doing good babes!
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EqualRoof
You were at a ski resort, right Danielle?
Daniyell 01/27/2023 7:21 PM
Yep and it has been non stop busy
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Daniyell
I’m doing good babes!
BD 01/27/2023 7:21 PM
How are the goats? Give them pets and treats for me
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Daniyell 01/27/2023 7:21 PM
My head is spinning!!!
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BD
How are the goats? Give them pets and treats for me
Daniyell 01/27/2023 7:21 PM
I gotta post the video I took today
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EqualRoof 01/27/2023 7:21 PM
I heard a story today on the radio about how ski resorts are becoming so flooded because of this multipass scenario. We are people can buy passes and just go from place to place for super cheap.
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I gotta post the video I took today
BD 01/27/2023 7:21 PM
Please!
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Daniyell 01/27/2023 7:22 PM
This is what they do when they know it’s time to go in….. 🤣
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EqualRoof 01/27/2023 7:22 PM
I’ve been to Utah, Snowbird, and Alta.
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EqualRoof 01/27/2023 7:22 PM
The goats!!!!
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Daniyell 01/27/2023 7:22 PM
They are wiiiild! 🤣
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BD 01/27/2023 7:23 PM
Getting that last minute energy out! ❤️
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Daniyell 01/27/2023 7:23 PM
I put a goat cam in and so I can watch and talk to them
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EqualRoof 01/27/2023 7:23 PM
They are some lucky critters!
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Kbsassy 01/27/2023 7:23 PM
So darn cute 💜
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Daniyell
I put a goat cam in and so I can watch and talk to them
EqualRoof 01/27/2023 7:23 PM
I saw that
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Daniyell 01/27/2023 7:23 PM
The jerks jump up and unplug it all the time
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Daniyell
I put a goat cam in and so I can watch and talk to them
BD 01/27/2023 7:23 PM
I remember you showing that
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EqualRoof 01/27/2023 7:23 PM
Maybe we should move this to chat?!
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Daniyell
The jerks jump up and unplug it all the time
BD 01/27/2023 7:23 PM
Smart goats
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EqualRoof
Maybe we should move this to chat?!
BD 01/27/2023 7:23 PM
Yes
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Daniyell 01/27/2023 7:24 PM
He looks right up at the camera when I talk to him LOL
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BD
How is @Daniyell @Just.Kitten asked about her. Sorry but I saw her meme mentioned here and I'd like to know she's ok as well. I miss seeing her
Just.Kitten 01/27/2023 7:45 PM
Thank you @bd! @Daniyell I haven't seen any goat pics/videos lately and I was worried Lol Glad you're ok!
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EqualRoof 01/27/2023 8:30 PM
If anyone needs text history I’m willing to send.
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Dakind-RobinMcMillan 01/27/2023 8:33 PM
@EqualRoof hes been engaging me respectfully this afternoon said hed been up for 22hrs. ?? might be all nuts (edited)
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Morphfiend
He's not mitramax I know him lol
Funk 01/27/2023 8:33 PM
Definitely a different dude
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Just.Kitten
Thank you @bd! @Daniyell I haven't seen any goat pics/videos lately and I was worried Lol Glad you're ok!
Daniyell 01/27/2023 9:34 PM
Hey babes!!! Did you enjoy the video of my rugrats?! 🤭
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Reeko
I don't. But I think moonchaser does.
Daniyell 01/27/2023 9:37 PM
I have some from him
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Daniyell
Hey babes!!! Did you enjoy the video of my rugrats?! 🤭
Just.Kitten 01/28/2023 5:10 AM
I absolutely did! ❤️ I frigging love goats 🐐
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Just.Kitten 01/28/2023 6:42 AM
Nabb is a vendor? I know they tend to be a bit argumentative, but I don't see anything from last night. ? What company are they?
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Just.Kitten
Nabb is a vendor? I know they tend to be a bit argumentative, but I don't see anything from last night. ? What company are they?
EqualRoof 01/28/2023 11:03 AM
No, he’s not, I guess this was not the right place for that.
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No, he’s not, I guess this was not the right place for that.
Just.Kitten 01/28/2023 11:40 AM
Ooh ok, all good! I was just really confused. Lol
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If anyone needs text history I’m willing to send.
Steeler45$ 01/28/2023 12:07 PM
The guy was always rude did he get the boot
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The guy was always rude did he get the boot
BD 01/28/2023 12:31 PM
@BewitchedBotanical came and checked on me. I said that nabb and I were fine (with the situation between me and him, IDK about anybody else's) because I really really hate conflict and he did accept my final answer on the tianeptine ban in Mississippi.... Once I explained it's banned only over the counter... I just don't want friction and I don't want me to be the cause of any. I try really hard to just be a happy, positive influence and I'm just....I don't want any issues with anyone, ever. 🥺
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@BewitchedBotanical came and checked on me. I said that nabb and I were fine (with the situation between me and him, IDK about anybody else's) because I really really hate conflict and he did accept my final answer on the tianeptine ban in Mississippi.... Once I explained it's banned only over the counter... I just don't want friction and I don't want me to be the cause of any. I try really hard to just be a happy, positive influence and I'm just....I don't want any issues with anyone, ever. 🥺
Steeler45$ 01/28/2023 12:34 PM
I only caught the tail end I have no idea what happened but I do know at times he can be rude very rude but I already know you did not start anything it's probably water under the bridge now it's all love here 🙏
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Add to Naughty Collection
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EqualRoof 01/29/2023 8:23 AM
Good call!! @fawn_mower
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Good call!! @fawn_mower
fawn_mower 01/29/2023 8:24 AM
friends don't let friends...
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BD 01/29/2023 12:48 PM
That ended in November according to that. Did they fall to update the website? Does the code still work??
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That ended in November according to that. Did they fall to update the website? Does the code still work??
g0tkiLt? 01/29/2023 1:11 PM
Noooo... this stuff got SEVERAL ppl sick... Including @fawn_mower (edited)
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Noooo... this stuff got SEVERAL ppl sick... Including @fawn_mower (edited)
BD 01/29/2023 1:18 PM
Ok well Fawn Mover didn't make that clear in her post. She just posted a screen shot and highlights a sale code. Some clarification is required because I had no idea that, that had happened and I didn't understand tht post well enough to get that info from what's posted. It NEEDS editing to clarify.
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g0tkiLt? 01/29/2023 1:23 PM
I gotcha.. im sure she'll expand on this once she gets back on
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Ok im heading home.. ill hyu later
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BD 01/29/2023 1:28 PM
Yup
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Ok well Fawn Mover didn't make that clear in her post. She just posted a screen shot and highlights a sale code. Some clarification is required because I had no idea that, that had happened and I didn't understand tht post well enough to get that info from what's posted. It NEEDS editing to clarify.
fawn_mower 01/29/2023 2:02 PM
Hey sorry that's my bad, I actually didn't realize the picture was edited like that. I apologize. Yes for clarification: myself and at least 3 other people I'm aware of all purchased from Roxyz during the black Friday sale hilited in the picture. We all became ill from our purchase with the same symptoms (we think Salmonella, unfortunately I was never able to get the bags tested although I do still have them). It took me a week to get hold of the owner who- during that time- disabled their emails, abandoned their website (this is why the picture looks like that- it was screened a week after the sale closed), and wouldn't answer phone calls. When I did talk to her, she apologized and said she would have labs to me the next day. She had reached out to the others who were sick as well to say the same. That was the last anyone ever heard from her.
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Sorry again @BD , I hope this helps. I have all the receipts from these conversations et al if you want or need them to verify.
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Sorry again @BD , I hope this helps. I have all the receipts from these conversations et al if you want or need them to verify.
BD 01/29/2023 2:06 PM
I trust you. We just need background on why they're on the list. It'll help people in the future. That's all. I just want people to KNOW WHY they should avoid these vendors. So they don't end up sick as well. Thank you for that clarification. It helps a great deal
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I trust you. We just need background on why they're on the list. It'll help people in the future. That's all. I just want people to KNOW WHY they should avoid these vendors. So they don't end up sick as well. Thank you for that clarification. It helps a great deal
fawn_mower 01/29/2023 2:08 PM
Oh absolutely. I was on early and fell asleep before getting around to it. Grateful to you and @g0tkiLt? for the reminder to update. 🧡🧡
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Ant-Reloaded 01/29/2023 2:44 PM
Yeah Roxyz shit the bed when @fawn_mower talked to them and they ran and hid and could have made it right. They sold a lot of bad powder.
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Yeah Roxyz shit the bed when @fawn_mower talked to them and they ran and hid and could have made it right. They sold a lot of bad powder.
BD 01/29/2023 2:48 PM
I'm assuming they're still in hiding?
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RichardBaker 01/29/2023 2:55 PM
With something as new, unregulated, and under-researched as kratom, this thread is a great idea! Great job, peeps.
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I'm assuming they're still in hiding?
Ant-Reloaded 01/29/2023 2:56 PM
Haven’t seen em since mandy and moist ear got sick. Like Back around thanksgiving ish or maybe before Christmas
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Like 5 people were really bad sick
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I called their store, left vmail. Fawn she messaged let em know. Others did as well she gave Fawn an excuse about supplier but never bothered to email everyone off her sale she did to do a voluntary recall. And the folks who got sick were BAD SICK
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Haven’t seen em since mandy and moist ear got sick. Like Back around thanksgiving ish or maybe before Christmas
BewitchedBotanical 01/29/2023 3:00 PM
I seen someone on reddit the other day mentioning them when a post was up about who is in your regular rotation. Someone said Roxyz and I was just like .. wow. I couldn't comment or anything obviously, being banned but I just wondered if roxyz was still selling or how roxy is in that person's regular rotation if they have disappeared.
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I seen someone on reddit the other day mentioning them when a post was up about who is in your regular rotation. Someone said Roxyz and I was just like .. wow. I couldn't comment or anything obviously, being banned but I just wondered if roxyz was still selling or how roxy is in that person's regular rotation if they have disappeared.
Ant-Reloaded 01/29/2023 3:01 PM
They might be Roxy
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They might be Roxy
BewitchedBotanical 01/29/2023 3:01 PM
That's actually a pretty logical explanation lol very well could be.
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Ant-Reloaded 01/29/2023 3:02 PM
Good find on spotting them
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They might be Roxy
BewitchedBotanical 01/29/2023 3:02 PM
That's the ONLY time I have seen them mentioned since the sickness stuff.
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Ant-Reloaded 01/29/2023 3:03 PM
Right odd that out of 60 ish days bam. Bet it’s her
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Right odd that out of 60 ish days bam. Bet it’s her
BewitchedBotanical 01/29/2023 3:04 PM
Has to be.. because literally not one person is bringing them up at all. Lol I wanted to comment so bad but couldn't do shit 🙄
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Has to be.. because literally not one person is bringing them up at all. Lol I wanted to comment so bad but couldn't do shit 🙄
Ant-Reloaded 01/29/2023 3:06 PM
I made a fake reddit for neb bc his got knocked down you can use it if you want I did it on a spare device on a hotspot on a lg that hasn’t been turned on in well over a year
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He isn’t going back on Reddit
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I made a fake reddit for neb bc his got knocked down you can use it if you want I did it on a spare device on a hotspot on a lg that hasn’t been turned on in well over a year
BewitchedBotanical 01/29/2023 3:07 PM
I may take you up on that lol I just been creeping and lurking 🤣🤣🤣
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I may take you up on that lol I just been creeping and lurking 🤣🤣🤣
Ant-Reloaded 01/29/2023 3:14 PM
I’ll txt you
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I’ll txt you
BewitchedBotanical 01/29/2023 3:19 PM
OK cool
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Ok well Fawn Mover didn't make that clear in her post. She just posted a screen shot and highlights a sale code. Some clarification is required because I had no idea that, that had happened and I didn't understand tht post well enough to get that info from what's posted. It NEEDS editing to clarify.
EqualRoof 01/29/2023 4:09 PM
I was aware. That’s why I said good call.
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I was aware. That’s why I said good call.
BD 01/29/2023 4:10 PM
Yeah I had no idea any of that had happened. Might've happened in the few weeks I was MIA from here
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Yeah I had no idea any of that had happened. Might've happened in the few weeks I was MIA from here
Ant-Reloaded 01/29/2023 4:14 PM
That’s when it happened
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BD 01/29/2023 4:19 PM
Ahhh makes sense now.
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This is Mitraxtrax cashtag ^
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BD 01/31/2023 5:09 PM
I can't pin this message
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Ok. Well this is important we have it
Ant-Reloaded pinned a message to this channel. 01/31/2023 5:11 PM
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Reeko 01/31/2023 5:43 PM
That's him?
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I posted like 2 weeks ago that I thought it was him. But that's before we had the naught-list channel (edited)
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Cae 01/31/2023 5:49 PM
Yes, confirmed it's him. Matching addresses both the Stuart Ave and his other
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Reeko 01/31/2023 5:51 PM
Lol that's crazy. I thought so. You guys must not have seen my post in chat
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Cae 01/31/2023 5:53 PM
I didn't see it no, I apologize. I'm glad we caught it though before he was verified.
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Reeko 01/31/2023 5:54 PM
Yeah. No worries. I didn't want to make a big deal out of it because we were wrong about one guy
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mooncusser901 01/31/2023 5:59 PM
Which one?
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Mitra?
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Reeko 01/31/2023 6:00 PM
Seven bends being mitra
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mooncusser901 01/31/2023 6:00 PM
Ahh I see
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Ant-Reloaded 01/31/2023 6:02 PM
I’m gonna just handle verification process unless it’s 100% a vendor we do know. If I’m not here or reachable ill leave it to our mods. I need to post the bullet points of verification and pin that to our mods.
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LeisaB44 02/01/2023 7:08 PM
Here’s the invoice that I paid from him
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Here’s the invoice that I paid from him
EqualRoof 02/01/2023 7:18 PM
I’m sure you’re pissed. Did you ever contact them, and was there any reply?
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It’s OK if you didn’t
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LeisaB44 02/01/2023 7:22 PM
I’m going to be getting my order on Friday so I’ll be sure to take pictures & obviously not take any of this stuff. This guy is scum who pretends to be someone else & because I had talked to him before he got people sick he knew things about me- being on disability, being a very trusting person. He used that against me saying he was disabled & his only source of income was this business. I’m not sure what possessed me to send him money I really can’t afford when I’ve got other vendors that I have been putting off until I can afford it. I was seeing it as one disabled person helping another one make ends meet. I guess it was just meant to so he can get busted again. I haven’t responded to his “friend” I think it’s him under a different account because he mixed up pronouns between I & he. I just don’t think what to say honestly. I feel embarrassed & very stupid for trusting someone & I always want to think the best of people 🤦‍♀️
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I’m going to be getting my order on Friday so I’ll be sure to take pictures & obviously not take any of this stuff. This guy is scum who pretends to be someone else & because I had talked to him before he got people sick he knew things about me- being on disability, being a very trusting person. He used that against me saying he was disabled & his only source of income was this business. I’m not sure what possessed me to send him money I really can’t afford when I’ve got other vendors that I have been putting off until I can afford it. I was seeing it as one disabled person helping another one make ends meet. I guess it was just meant to so he can get busted again. I haven’t responded to his “friend” I think it’s him under a different account because he mixed up pronouns between I & he. I just don’t think what to say honestly. I feel embarrassed & very stupid for trusting someone & I always want to think the best of people 🤦‍♀️
Steeler45$ 02/01/2023 7:24 PM
You absolutely did nothing wrong he is a piece of shit he is garbage of a human being karma is a bitch and it will come back double on his ass do not be embarrassed and definitely do not call yourself stupid this dude has some real mental problems pretending to be other people this is not on you at all 🙏
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LeisaB44 02/01/2023 7:29 PM
Thank you for saying that! Yes he’s some sort of masochistic schizophrenic psychopath who somehow enjoys hurting people. I appreciate this community so much because no one I know would understand any of this at all. They all know what a really different positive thing kratom is for me but I’m not trying to tell anyone about getting scammed out of $30 by a pos
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Kbsassy 02/01/2023 7:35 PM
@LeisaB44 I am sorry love. You were being kind and understanding. He is a cancer to this community.
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LeisaB44 02/01/2023 7:46 PM
Thank you I agree he needs to go far far away!!
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Thank you I agree he needs to go far far away!!
EqualRoof 02/01/2023 10:15 PM
Your understanding is incredible! And even if that product is clean, it came from bad hands. I plan to send @LeisaB44 some homemade extract to make up for this unfortunate situation. Unfortunately, my extract will not be as strong as it’s not made with kerosene, chloroform, and antifreeze… just lemons and vinegar here.
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Your understanding is incredible! And even if that product is clean, it came from bad hands. I plan to send @LeisaB44 some homemade extract to make up for this unfortunate situation. Unfortunately, my extract will not be as strong as it’s not made with kerosene, chloroform, and antifreeze… just lemons and vinegar here.
Kbsassy 02/01/2023 10:17 PM
I am glad it will not have that in it. That is sweet of you 🥰
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Your understanding is incredible! And even if that product is clean, it came from bad hands. I plan to send @LeisaB44 some homemade extract to make up for this unfortunate situation. Unfortunately, my extract will not be as strong as it’s not made with kerosene, chloroform, and antifreeze… just lemons and vinegar here.
Kruso37 02/02/2023 12:20 AM
That’s so nice of you. Things like that are why I love this group 💕
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Your understanding is incredible! And even if that product is clean, it came from bad hands. I plan to send @LeisaB44 some homemade extract to make up for this unfortunate situation. Unfortunately, my extract will not be as strong as it’s not made with kerosene, chloroform, and antifreeze… just lemons and vinegar here.
BD 02/02/2023 6:27 AM
That is very sweet of you
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g0tkiLt? 02/02/2023 6:30 AM
I hope noone argues the benefits of kerosene as a solvent 🤣😂
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Your understanding is incredible! And even if that product is clean, it came from bad hands. I plan to send @LeisaB44 some homemade extract to make up for this unfortunate situation. Unfortunately, my extract will not be as strong as it’s not made with kerosene, chloroform, and antifreeze… just lemons and vinegar here.
LeisaB44 02/02/2023 8:37 AM
That’s very kind of you! I’ve got a 8 month old granddaughter that depends on me daily. I certainly don’t want to be on any dangerous substances around her or period. I’m very grateful for all the support you guys have given me on here! I’m really embarrassed for falling for this pos lies but at least he’s called out for it now
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That’s very kind of you! I’ve got a 8 month old granddaughter that depends on me daily. I certainly don’t want to be on any dangerous substances around her or period. I’m very grateful for all the support you guys have given me on here! I’m really embarrassed for falling for this pos lies but at least he’s called out for it now
EqualRoof 02/02/2023 9:27 AM
You have no need to be embarrassed. He does. Even though that was an unfortunate situation, it really showed the strength and resolve this community has.
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You have no need to be embarrassed. He does. Even though that was an unfortunate situation, it really showed the strength and resolve this community has.
LeisaB44 02/02/2023 10:01 AM
Yes I’m very impressed & appreciate all the support here!
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I’m going to be getting my order on Friday so I’ll be sure to take pictures & obviously not take any of this stuff. This guy is scum who pretends to be someone else & because I had talked to him before he got people sick he knew things about me- being on disability, being a very trusting person. He used that against me saying he was disabled & his only source of income was this business. I’m not sure what possessed me to send him money I really can’t afford when I’ve got other vendors that I have been putting off until I can afford it. I was seeing it as one disabled person helping another one make ends meet. I guess it was just meant to so he can get busted again. I haven’t responded to his “friend” I think it’s him under a different account because he mixed up pronouns between I & he. I just don’t think what to say honestly. I feel embarrassed & very stupid for trusting someone & I always want to think the best of people 🤦‍♀️
mooncusser901 02/02/2023 10:55 AM
Hell he got me too.
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You have no need to be embarrassed. He does. Even though that was an unfortunate situation, it really showed the strength and resolve this community has.
mooncusser901 02/02/2023 10:57 AM
I don’t see how he thinks he can get around this group. Lmao. Blood hounds in here!
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LeisaB44 02/02/2023 11:45 AM
Just opened the package nothing is sealed which is a huge red flag as if I need any more of those 😝
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mooncusser901 02/02/2023 11:46 AM
Looks better than the shit he paddled to me, he sent me an envelope like a paper envelope with a black bag, with no sticker no nothing
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Just opened the package nothing is sealed which is a huge red flag as if I need any more of those 😝
Matt-Kr8tS 02/02/2023 11:46 AM
just make sure don't have a peanut in there!
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mooncusser901 02/02/2023 11:48 AM
Why does that sticker look like it was on the floor of the bathroom?
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It looks so unclean. I’m so sorry you got duped by him.
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But you’re doing us all a favor in all actuality by testing these
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We need to get all the stuff tested and put out a PSA on Reddit, but I think it would be smart to have multiple people do that as well because you know that our posts are going to be deleted
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BewitchedBotanical 02/02/2023 11:50 AM
That shit just looks dirty. The bottle, sticker. All of it.
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Matt-Kr8tS 02/02/2023 11:51 AM
nothing beats Delta or Mike in a bottle pack
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LeisaB44 02/02/2023 11:51 AM
😆 I was looking forward to trying the extract shot today before knowing it was from him of course. The extract leaked all around the sides of the label because it’s not sealed. Plus the tincture is downright terrifying just some dropper bottle with no label & it’s leaking too. Absolutely disgusting.
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Smells like bad alcohol
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Smells like bad alcohol
BewitchedBotanical 02/02/2023 11:52 AM
Denatured alcohol 😬😳
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LeisaB44 02/02/2023 11:53 AM
Ugh that’s gotta be what it is can’t wait to see what is actually inside this stuff. Made me nauseous just smelling it
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nothing beats Delta or Mike in a bottle pack
LeisaB44 02/02/2023 11:56 AM
I’ve been dying to try Mike’s extract for months & instead I go & get this crap because I thought I was helping someone get started $30 wasted but thank God I won’t be consuming it especially with Crohn’s I would probably be hospitalized for a while
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Matt-Kr8tS 02/02/2023 11:56 AM
$30 for unknown-bottle, sorry for you 🙏
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I’ve been dying to try Mike’s extract for months & instead I go & get this crap because I thought I was helping someone get started $30 wasted but thank God I won’t be consuming it especially with Crohn’s I would probably be hospitalized for a while
Matt-Kr8tS 02/02/2023 11:57 AM
yes please don't use it, but please keep it for evidence
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I’ve been dying to try Mike’s extract for months & instead I go & get this crap because I thought I was helping someone get started $30 wasted but thank God I won’t be consuming it especially with Crohn’s I would probably be hospitalized for a while
BewitchedBotanical 02/02/2023 11:57 AM
Us crohnies can't be taking just anything so do NOT lol
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Us crohnies can't be taking just anything so do NOT lol
LeisaB44 02/02/2023 12:02 PM
Exactly! I’ve already had 31 surgeries don’t need anymore!
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Exactly! I’ve already had 31 surgeries don’t need anymore!
BewitchedBotanical 02/02/2023 12:03 PM
Ooooh you got me beat!!! I'm at 17 .. not all of those are crohns related. Lol
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EqualRoof 02/02/2023 12:03 PM
My shittiest extract looks better than that!🤣
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There is a hair in that
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Little white fiber look close
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My shittiest extract looks better than that!🤣
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Boof hairs (edited)
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LeisaB44 02/02/2023 12:06 PM
I’ve never had homemade extract powder so I have no idea what it’s supposed to look like but looks like something scraped off a dirty floor.
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I’ve never had homemade extract powder so I have no idea what it’s supposed to look like but looks like something scraped off a dirty floor.
g0tkiLt? 02/02/2023 1:05 PM
Because it most likely was...
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Because it most likely was...
EqualRoof 02/02/2023 1:07 PM
And the bathroom at that 🤣
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Steeler45$ 02/02/2023 1:12 PM
Real shit
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EqualRoof 02/02/2023 1:18 PM
It is weird. His other extract looked like crystal meth. This looks more like charcoal dust.
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It is weird. His other extract looked like crystal meth. This looks more like charcoal dust.
BD 02/02/2023 1:27 PM
Prolly depends on what effects he was going for. I've seen a couple different looking ones that were his. Or what he used to create the extract at the time?
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mooncusser901 02/02/2023 1:29 PM
The red recliner I got from him was bright, fucking orange
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Smelled of vinegar
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Literally thought it was heroin at first
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Ooooh you got me beat!!! I'm at 17 .. not all of those are crohns related. Lol
BeEliteRepeat 02/02/2023 1:46 PM
Wow ive had 13 Crohns operations i thought i had alot (edited)
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@Ant-Reloaded i sent that package of mitrax stuff so you should have it in a few days
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mooncusser901 02/02/2023 1:57 PM
@BewitchedBotanical I just placed an order!
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BD 02/02/2023 2:00 PM
All: can we keep this channel clear for the naughty list? Please?
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@BewitchedBotanical I just placed an order!
BewitchedBotanical 02/02/2023 2:00 PM
Just got it!!! Thanks so much darling!
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BD 02/02/2023 2:01 PM
This isn't another chat. I get that some of the conversation was relevant, but please?
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Wow ive had 13 Crohns operations i thought i had alot (edited)
BewitchedBotanical 02/02/2023 2:01 PM
13 is a lot too!!! Goodness. Im so sorry you have crohns as well.
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Just got it!!! Thanks so much darling!
mooncusser901 02/02/2023 2:43 PM
Can’t wait!
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BewitchedBotanical
There is a hair in that
Cae 02/02/2023 7:49 PM
10$ says it's a cat hair
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Cae
10$ says it's a cat hair
EqualRoof 02/02/2023 7:53 PM
Don’t you remember seeing the guy say, “I’m not trying to laugh at butt drugs, I’m doing real science!”
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Cae 02/02/2023 7:54 PM
rEAL sCiEnCe
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Self Care MC 02/02/2023 7:54 PM
https://tenor.com/view/pinch-sleepy-poke-asleep-sleeping-gif-15844357
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Scientists can’t laugh at butt Jokes?!
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kendell 02/02/2023 7:55 PM
I doubt this guy has any idea of what science actually is if he thinks that
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Cae 02/02/2023 7:55 PM
So, honest question
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Is MitraXtrax the only vendor on the naughty list?
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Self Care MC 02/02/2023 7:55 PM
Roxyherbalz
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Bunch of ppl got sick
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EqualRoof 02/02/2023 7:55 PM
And this guy
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Cae 02/02/2023 7:56 PM
Never heard of them
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EqualRoof 02/02/2023 7:56 PM
Roxy wasn’t around for a very long time
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kendell 02/02/2023 7:56 PM
roxy herbalz? Seriously? That couldn't seriously be a coincidence, that sounds an aweful lot like roxycodone
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roxy herbalz? Seriously? That couldn't seriously be a coincidence, that sounds an aweful lot like roxycodone
EqualRoof 02/02/2023 7:56 PM
That’s exactly why I started investigated them.
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That in their logo look like a Stone fucking bunny
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Self Care MC 02/02/2023 7:56 PM
@fawn_mower posted something about it above i believe and no correlation i think the owners name is Roxy. Lol
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roxy herbalz? Seriously? That couldn't seriously be a coincidence, that sounds an aweful lot like roxycodone
BD 02/02/2023 7:56 PM
Prolly especially with the OPMS thing that few pick up on
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kendell 02/02/2023 7:57 PM
it's not hard to pick up on it, all it takes is a brain
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Cae 02/02/2023 7:57 PM
OPMS?
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Opiate Powder Made Spicy?
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kendell 02/02/2023 7:58 PM
sounds an awful lot like opiums to me. Never bought from them because of it
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Self Care MC 02/02/2023 7:58 PM
I don’t think it should be on the naughty list but it’s defiantly frowned upon
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kendell 02/02/2023 7:58 PM
optimized mediated plant solutions I think
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Cae 02/02/2023 7:58 PM
I tried their black shot and honestly I wasn't impressed
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Overdose_hippy 02/02/2023 7:58 PM
Opms is def a throw to opium
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EqualRoof 02/02/2023 7:58 PM
And they are under at least one lawsuit
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Cae 02/02/2023 7:59 PM
Nodzilla I'm gonna add here
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Self Care MC 02/02/2023 7:59 PM
I’d imagine they have a stack.
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Cae 02/02/2023 7:59 PM
Their extract has phenibut in it, no ingredients on the bottle, no serving recs
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Nodzilla I'm gonna add here
EqualRoof 02/02/2023 7:59 PM
Yeah that’s that’s a terrible name
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Cae 02/02/2023 8:00 PM
Yeah it took me forever but I've finally gotten all of our shops around here to stop carrying them
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Yeah it took me forever but I've finally gotten all of our shops around here to stop carrying them
Self Care MC 02/02/2023 8:02 PM
That’s awesome
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Cae 02/02/2023 8:03 PM
I've gotten everything adulterated off the shelves, now just gotta get em carrying small batch lol
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BD 02/02/2023 8:03 PM
Nodfather still around?
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Their extract has phenibut in it, no ingredients on the bottle, no serving recs
mooncusser901 02/02/2023 8:04 PM
Gross
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Cae 02/02/2023 8:05 PM
Yeah, like phenibut is okay but I don't think vendors should be allowed to put it in kratom without labelling it as such
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mooncusser901 02/02/2023 8:06 PM
Not at all. I’m not a big fan of it, but I’m not against it, but definitely am against it being inside of my Kratom products without being labeled.
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Cae 02/02/2023 8:06 PM
Especially as a gabapentin user that's super dangerous for me
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Yeah, like phenibut is okay but I don't think vendors should be allowed to put it in kratom without labelling it as such
BD 02/02/2023 8:13 PM
Exactly. I only take gabapentin as needed, but that could really cause issues... Not even labeled. No thank you
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Cae 02/02/2023 8:13 PM
I take 800 three times daily
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kendell 02/02/2023 8:14 PM
it really is awsome. Any chance you'd be willing to put together a group of volunteers in each state that does that? If we can, that would go a long way towards cleaning up the industry and shutting up the grievers. Take away the adulterated products and we drastically reduce their ability to whine
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Cae 02/02/2023 8:14 PM
I can try to write up how I did it
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I take 800 three times daily
BD 02/02/2023 8:28 PM
300 x 3 times per day (if I need it)
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Not nearly as high
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Yeah, like phenibut is okay but I don't think vendors should be allowed to put it in kratom without labelling it as such
Self Care MC 02/02/2023 8:29 PM
The good ol “proprietary blend”
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BD 02/02/2023 8:29 PM
Nothing good about that, tho
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Exactly. I only take gabapentin as needed, but that could really cause issues... Not even labeled. No thank you
mooncusser901 02/02/2023 8:29 PM
Capri was on that for a while, worked for that time being
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Self Care MC 02/02/2023 8:31 PM
I’ve taken it a few times i didn’t feel the hype i still have a tub full damn near I’ll take it every once in a blue moon if I’m trying to reset my kratom tolerance
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Capri was on that for a while, worked for that time being
BD 02/02/2023 8:31 PM
It's one of those, I always like to have on hand, don't like taking it all the time
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mooncusser901 02/02/2023 8:31 PM
True
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Self Care MC 02/02/2023 8:31 PM
But yeah not with kratom Fuck that especially in a blend 🙅‍♂️
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It would help better for anxiety if it didn’t take 3 hours to kick in
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If i took too little i didn’t feel anything and if i took too much i slept like a horse
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10$ says it's a cat hair
BewitchedBotanical 02/02/2023 8:52 PM
Lmaoooo it really does look like it.
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The good ol “proprietary blend”
ThatOnePlaceGJ 02/02/2023 9:34 PM
Ah yes. The good ol maltodextrin with cheap sketchy RC's that the owners have never tried, but instead got fucked up one night and thought it'd be a good idea to get other people fucked up.
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Yeah, like phenibut is okay but I don't think vendors should be allowed to put it in kratom without labelling it as such
EqualRoof 02/03/2023 9:15 AM
If I found out a vendor was putting phenibut in my leaf I would get them shut down with all my ability. (edited)
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Morphfiend 02/03/2023 9:18 AM
Pretty sure I came across some texas local vendors putting tianeptine or phenibut in there "house" blends
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Couple smokeshops me and my friends were convinced there was something more than kratom in there
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We were legit nodding out
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And we're all ex herion addicts
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Matt-Kr8tS 02/03/2023 9:21 AM
its crazy!
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Steeler45$ 02/03/2023 9:21 AM
That's some scary stuff
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Morphfiend 02/03/2023 9:22 AM
Right it was crazy we all came to the conclusion without even talking to each other about it.
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Before hand
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EqualRoof 02/03/2023 9:23 AM
Another reason to stick with our verified vendor list.
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EqualRoof 02/03/2023 11:38 AM
He tried to get in here. Well he did, I pulled the llc and he was kicked in under an hour. I should’ve been more aggressive on warning, the public on Reddit.
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LeisaB44 02/03/2023 11:27 PM
Yes I was the “lucky” person that fell for his fake sob story! I did ship out what I got from him today to get tested. It came unsealed and leaking & smelled like rotten alcohol or some other chemical for sure
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Yes I was the “lucky” person that fell for his fake sob story! I did ship out what I got from him today to get tested. It came unsealed and leaking & smelled like rotten alcohol or some other chemical for sure
EqualRoof 02/03/2023 11:52 PM
You did ship it off!?! Way to go @LeisaB44! You’re doing you’re part. Thank you for that. I forgot to send off that package today, but ill get it ready this weekend and send it out first thing next week
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LeisaB44 02/03/2023 11:53 PM
Yes I sent it to Ant to find out what he’s putting in there! I don’t want anyone messing with keeping this miracle plant staying legal
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Wow ive had 13 Crohns operations i thought i had alot (edited)
LeisaB44 02/04/2023 12:00 AM
Oh I’m so sorry another Crohnie 😞 I’m finally in remission & I swear it’s been so much better since I’ve been taking kratom!
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That in their logo look like a Stone fucking bunny
fawn_mower 02/05/2023 8:46 AM
big Donnie Darko vibes
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big Donnie Darko vibes
EqualRoof 02/05/2023 9:09 AM
It sure does!
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Pretty sure I came across some texas local vendors putting tianeptine or phenibut in there "house" blends
mooncusser901 02/06/2023 4:58 PM
Thats fucked up.
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fawn_mower 02/12/2023 2:04 PM
ok so... potentially naughty? I keep getting random emails from Katie's Kratom 🤷‍♀️
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I've never heard of them but they're from Wilmington, NC
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https://katieskratom.com/homepage/
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they're having a Grand Opening sale, but have a fan favorites area of the menu
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I'm not saying they're not legit but I've also asked around and NOBODY has heard of them
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so.. I think it's skep
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they evidently offer home delivery
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if anyone can vouch for them cool, but maybe use caution? anyone else getting these mailers?
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EqualRoof 02/12/2023 2:47 PM
I have not. Looks suspect though.
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BD 02/12/2023 3:15 PM
I am not getting them but maybe @Ant-Reloaded should be made aware, as he's very strict on vendor approval and verification. He might want to know (why I just tagged him?)
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Down2Earth 02/12/2023 3:21 PM
Wtf is a gold bentuangie 😂
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Wtf is a gold bentuangie 😂
Steeler45$ 02/12/2023 3:22 PM
I was so confused lol
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Down2Earth 02/12/2023 3:22 PM
Meang da
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Lawd
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Steeler45$ 02/12/2023 3:22 PM
😂😂
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Ant-Reloaded 02/12/2023 3:22 PM
Who are these ppl ?
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Ant-Reloaded 02/12/2023 3:24 PM
Have you ordered from wonderland gardens ? They’re out of Wilmington Nc as well.
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I am not getting them but maybe @Ant-Reloaded should be made aware, as he's very strict on vendor approval and verification. He might want to know (why I just tagged him?)
Ant-Reloaded 02/12/2023 3:24 PM
Ty. Def looking into em
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Down2Earth 02/12/2023 3:26 PM
How did they manage to spell bentuangie properly but not maeng da 😂 ok I’m done
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Ant-Reloaded 02/12/2023 3:36 PM
At least they used a professional to build their site 🤷‍♂️
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We got unidentified vendors soliciting via email and unidentified objects being shot down over Canada and USA. Interesting day it’s gonna be.
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StygianPath 02/12/2023 3:37 PM
Some poor guy is gonna go to Walmart and get a green dot card to buy some MEANG DA
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Matt-Kr8tS 02/12/2023 3:39 PM
@Overdose_hippy we got another new strains, meang ... this looks like dejavu
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Have you ordered from wonderland gardens ? They’re out of Wilmington Nc as well.
fawn_mower 02/12/2023 3:42 PM
yep not for a little bit but several times- I noticed they were in the area
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Matt-Kr8tS 02/12/2023 3:47 PM
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002008436173&mibextid=ZbWKwL
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i hope that not her lol
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fawn_mower 02/12/2023 3:49 PM
@Matt-Kr8tS it wouldn't link me... but I also hope it's not her either 😬
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@Matt-Kr8tS it wouldn't link me... but I also hope it's not her either 😬
Matt-Kr8tS 02/12/2023 3:52 PM
its her lol
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Ant-Reloaded 02/12/2023 3:53 PM
Married to his business. Completely understand that
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Matt-Kr8tS 02/12/2023 3:54 PM
seems legit 😁
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Married to his business. Completely understand that
Down2Earth 02/12/2023 3:59 PM
😂😂💯💯
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Gotta respect the hustle
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Overdose_hippy 02/12/2023 5:57 PM
Idk y'all... All those names sound made up to me🤣🤣
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Idk y'all... All those names sound made up to me🤣🤣
Matt-Kr8tS 02/12/2023 6:13 PM
i remember, mitraxtrax write meang tho 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Overdose_hippy 02/12/2023 7:22 PM
Ikr 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Cae 02/15/2023 1:29 AM
I'm confused who is John stout?
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I'm confused who is John stout?
Ant-Reloaded 02/15/2023 1:37 AM
A vendor who was spam emailing. We just looked into em bc of the volume of emails
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Seem ok ppl
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Cae 02/15/2023 1:37 AM
Oh I thought he was tied to something before. It's weird that they are in Wilmington
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Ant-Reloaded 02/15/2023 1:38 AM
Had forgotten to put Roxyz on the naughty list.
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Oh I thought he was tied to something before. It's weird that they are in Wilmington
Ant-Reloaded 02/15/2023 1:38 AM
Yeah so is Wg but they’re separate
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Wg isn’t on the list they just make silly posts sometimes
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Cae 02/15/2023 1:41 AM
Did you see the bags?
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Did you see the bags?
Ant-Reloaded 02/15/2023 1:50 AM
Oh my
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Cae 02/15/2023 1:51 AM
I feel like I've seen those types before but I can't put a finger on where
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Ant-Reloaded 02/15/2023 1:51 AM
Hmmmmmm
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Cae 02/15/2023 1:53 AM
Idk I'll give it a go and report back lol
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Idk I'll give it a go and report back lol
Ant-Reloaded 02/15/2023 1:53 AM
Ty lol. Def like that you’re on it !
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Cae 02/15/2023 1:54 AM
I've got a handful of newbies I'm trying next month anyway so I'll toss them in
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BD 02/15/2023 10:58 AM
I have silver mylar bags that look similar to that, except they're silver lol. IDK if whomever bought those went to Amazon or what.... (Tho that doesn't necessarily make sense to buy bulk bags at retail prices if you're a vendor, but I'm also not a vendor.... So what do I really know?? (Not much TBH))
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Wg isn’t on the list they just make silly posts sometimes
Reeko 02/15/2023 11:00 AM
Wg are very good people with great extracts, their regular leaf isn't all that great though. Definitely top tier vendors though
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ThatOnePlaceGJ 02/15/2023 8:27 PM
no such thing as gold bentuangie lmao
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no such thing as gold bentuangie lmao
Matt-Kr8tS 02/15/2023 8:30 PM
bentuangie is fermented
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bentuangie is fermented
ThatOnePlaceGJ 02/15/2023 8:36 PM
There was a picture showing a "gold bentuangie". I know they are fermented that's why I said that because the powder was clearly not fermented
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There was a picture showing a "gold bentuangie". I know they are fermented that's why I said that because the powder was clearly not fermented
Matt-Kr8tS 02/15/2023 9:32 PM
katie needs help from a kratom consultant 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I have silver mylar bags that look similar to that, except they're silver lol. IDK if whomever bought those went to Amazon or what.... (Tho that doesn't necessarily make sense to buy bulk bags at retail prices if you're a vendor, but I'm also not a vendor.... So what do I really know?? (Not much TBH))
ThatOnePlaceGJ 02/15/2023 10:14 PM
You'd be surprised, amazon can have better prices on that stuff than some wholesalers. Quality may vary though. A lot of stuff on amazon is listed at wholesale or near wholesale pricing already
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You'd be surprised, amazon can have better prices on that stuff than some wholesalers. Quality may vary though. A lot of stuff on amazon is listed at wholesale or near wholesale pricing already
BD 02/15/2023 10:19 PM
I was sent them as a gift. I use them mostly for making small travel bags for my many blends. So I don't have to blend every single dose (which I still do if I'm home though)
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I basically have used only two of them
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But they may come in handy when we drive up north for that final time
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Self Care MC 02/17/2023 11:57 PM
Lol bet it’s all a sham too
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What an idiot not the brightest if he’s using his own picture for his profile lol
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Hitting ppl over the head $13 for fent m box 30s smh my addict ass is going to bed night
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fawn_mower 02/17/2023 11:59 PM
lol nice try not the dea
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lol nice try not the dea
Ant-Reloaded 02/18/2023 12:25 AM
Hahahahahahahaa
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What an idiot not the brightest if he’s using his own picture for his profile lol
Ant-Reloaded 02/18/2023 12:27 AM
Ohhhhhh good call lol I have a way to search faces with AI
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Any bets on this being DEA like Fawn_mower said ? We can start a betting pool.
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Self Care MC 02/18/2023 9:00 AM
Lmaooo
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Self Care MC 02/18/2023 9:34 AM
My bet is not the dea and just some idiot
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BD 02/18/2023 12:58 PM
Not today DEA, Not today. Lol
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But also might just be a dumbass too. Both are pretty good choices.
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Reeko 02/18/2023 3:59 PM
All telegram account drug dealers are scammers. They might have a few real ones because all the darknet markets have been down from ddos attacks
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dimh 02/18/2023 5:59 PM
This guy is a scammer and scammed me out of $37 for this Kratom. Buyer beware. Can we get him removed from this discord please??
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This guy is a scammer and scammed me out of $37 for this Kratom. Buyer beware. Can we get him removed from this discord please??
BD 02/18/2023 6:03 PM
Did he not respond? What happened after you paid him?
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I'm not saying we can't remove him, but how long ago did you send the money?
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dimh 02/18/2023 6:03 PM
He claimed he sent it next day. So I waited because I had surgery. And was being patient with him
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I sent money 2/5
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He was in here trying to sell the same items 2/14 and 2/16
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Self Care MC 02/18/2023 6:04 PM
Dang i just saw those bags of nova and drooled the other day
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dimh 02/18/2023 6:04 PM
After I called him out and requested my money back he blocked me on Reddit and declined the request on cashapp
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Self Care MC 02/18/2023 6:05 PM
Sorry that happened to ya i know it’s an inconvenience if you wanted to cover $5 shipping I’ll have a couple ounces out to you first thing Monday morning
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Sorry that happened to ya i know it’s an inconvenience if you wanted to cover $5 shipping I’ll have a couple ounces out to you first thing Monday morning
dimh 02/18/2023 6:07 PM
Really?? Thats super nice. Yeah I’ll def do that 🙏🏿
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Self Care MC 02/18/2023 6:07 PM
Yup $5 covers my shipping and i can have it out with tracking first thing Monday morning it’ll be there mid week Thursday ish
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Shoot me a friend request i have a few different strains you can pick from you can let me know what you’d like to try.
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dimh 02/18/2023 6:08 PM
Thank you so much ❤️.
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Just wanted to warn everyone smh. And prevent others from getting caught up like I did being too trusting smh.
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Just wanted to warn everyone smh. And prevent others from getting caught up like I did being too trusting smh.
Reeko 02/18/2023 6:10 PM
Thank you for warning us. For every 500 good people in here there's bound to at least have 1 scammer
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Thank you for warning us. For every 500 good people in here there's bound to at least have 1 scammer
dimh 02/18/2023 6:11 PM
Yw I just so happened to run across him lol. Smh. To be clear i found him on Reddit and happened to join discord today and saw him still trying to sell the same shit weeks later.
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Yup $5 covers my shipping and i can have it out with tracking first thing Monday morning it’ll be there mid week Thursday ish
dimh 02/18/2023 6:11 PM
Request sent
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Reeko 02/18/2023 6:11 PM
I'm following his reddit.
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v᲼ 02/18/2023 6:12 PM
so wholesome <3 but yeah he did block you because it's fine for me... looks pretty damming
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Self Care MC 02/18/2023 6:12 PM
He thought this community wasn’t sly! We don’t like scammers and we try and take care of our own
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Reeko 02/18/2023 6:13 PM
I'll bomb his posts and try to get an answer. He'll likely block me pretty fast
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so wholesome <3 but yeah he did block you because it's fine for me... looks pretty damming
dimh 02/18/2023 6:14 PM
Yup cause I could see his most recent post 3 hrs ago in a few reddit groups right up until I called him out
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I'll bomb his posts and try to get an answer. He'll likely block me pretty fast
dimh 02/18/2023 6:14 PM
Thank you. And right. POS
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Self Care MC 02/18/2023 6:15 PM
Hahaha deplorable reekos on tht shit!
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Thank you. And right. POS
Ant-Reloaded 02/18/2023 6:20 PM
I’m trying to ask you about the ordeal
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I’m trying to ask you about the ordeal
dimh 02/18/2023 6:22 PM
Sorry. What are you wanting to know?
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Sorry. What are you wanting to know?
Ant-Reloaded 02/18/2023 6:23 PM
Where was this trade facilitated?
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dimh 02/18/2023 6:24 PM
Reddit DMs. Paid via CashApp
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bdawg 02/18/2023 9:36 PM
@Self Care MC i think the post office is closed monday due to presidents day. i could be wrong tho
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Self Care MC 02/18/2023 9:36 PM
Ahhhh you are most likely correct so all orders made this weekend will be out Tuesday morning!
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Self Care MC
Sorry that happened to ya i know it’s an inconvenience if you wanted to cover $5 shipping I’ll have a couple ounces out to you first thing Monday morning
LeisaB44 02/20/2023 2:05 PM
You’re so sweet & awesome for doing that!
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Just wanted to warn everyone smh. And prevent others from getting caught up like I did being too trusting smh.
LeisaB44 02/20/2023 2:09 PM
I’ve been the victim in another’s scam selling fake bags on here & this community has had my back! I’m sorry that people are that disgusting to take money from people who have a need for relief & just pocket it 🤦‍♀️ Karma will sort it out though!
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After I called him out and requested my money back he blocked me on Reddit and declined the request on cashapp
ThatOnePlaceGJ 02/20/2023 11:01 PM
He was always really cool with us, made a couple orders. Then he claimed to have a hair in his kratom, and asked for a replacement 200g bag (I double checked and the bag was only 100g). Didn't provide me pictures, but I gave the benefit of the doubt anyway and sent a 200g bag as an apology because I'd hate to have hair in my kratom. Haven't heard from him since and saw a couple people on reddit saying they were scammed by him. I'd like to believe it's not true, but it does seem to be happening
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He was always really cool with us, made a couple orders. Then he claimed to have a hair in his kratom, and asked for a replacement 200g bag (I double checked and the bag was only 100g). Didn't provide me pictures, but I gave the benefit of the doubt anyway and sent a 200g bag as an apology because I'd hate to have hair in my kratom. Haven't heard from him since and saw a couple people on reddit saying they were scammed by him. I'd like to believe it's not true, but it does seem to be happening
Self Care MC 02/20/2023 11:06 PM
Yeah he was copying and pasting same message to all the vendors sadly he got bewitched, okies, mitraman
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Yeah he was copying and pasting same message to all the vendors sadly he got bewitched, okies, mitraman
ThatOnePlaceGJ 02/20/2023 11:09 PM
Well sorry we give a shit about our customers.
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Yeah he was copying and pasting same message to all the vendors sadly he got bewitched, okies, mitraman
ThatOnePlaceGJ 02/20/2023 11:09 PM
That's grounds for permaban
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Self Care MC 02/20/2023 11:10 PM
I know it too the best of everyone’s kindness pretty fucked up. Karma will come around to him eventually
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This one is beyond bad
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Self Care MC 02/21/2023 12:48 AM
I mean he was spot on about diving in and “hitting every rock”
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Kbsassy 02/21/2023 12:49 AM
Didn't miss one rock lol
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BewitchedBotanical 02/21/2023 12:49 AM
This needs shouted from the rooftops all over reddit so nobody buys from him. Smh cannot believe that shit.
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Didn't miss one rock lol
Self Care MC 02/21/2023 12:50 AM
I’m stuck between a rock and a hard place on this one
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I’m stuck between a rock and a hard place on this one
Kbsassy 02/21/2023 12:52 AM
Hehehe
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I’m stuck between a rock and a hard place on this one
Ant-Reloaded 02/21/2023 12:56 AM
Hahahahahaahahahahhahahahahahahahahhhahahhahahhahahaa
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This needs shouted from the rooftops all over reddit so nobody buys from him. Smh cannot believe that shit.
Ant-Reloaded 02/21/2023 12:56 AM
He’s a very bad egg
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Self Care MC 02/21/2023 12:57 AM
I thought he was a bad rock 🪨 at least he’s got batch number and we know the one with the yellow tint is 🔥
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drainerpack 02/21/2023 11:49 AM
Awww @Self Care MC how kind of you!
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I mean he was spot on about diving in and “hitting every rock”
SaucySack96 02/21/2023 12:01 PM
His life is a very rocky road.
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Fucken love Dave Chapelle lol
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BD 02/21/2023 12:10 PM
Snuggi and Snoki say chirp, good morning, and c'mere (in that order, I translated the good morning part..... C'mere means "c'mere and give me head scritches (Snuggi), or c'mere and give me a treat (Snoki and Snuggi) lol. Anyway morning
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Ant-Reloaded 02/21/2023 5:19 PM
So Firefly their labs are actually legit labs. I called & spoke with Murray Brown and someone was already on it today lol and they have confirmed real labs. I called the Firefly Kratom phone number. Pretty damn shocking that someone would have the capital to do labs import the leaf and all that and then be such a shit head and sell and smoke rock I worry about people with history of that type of substance being pushed over the edge if offered something like that. So this is a bad situation I feel sorry for the guy honestly but that type of thing we cannot have. I should have blocked my number before calling 😆
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BD 02/21/2023 5:30 PM
Yeah, I don't want people being tempted. You absolutely made the right call
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Yeah, I don't want people being tempted. You absolutely made the right call
Ant-Reloaded 02/21/2023 5:41 PM
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So Firefly their labs are actually legit labs. I called & spoke with Murray Brown and someone was already on it today lol and they have confirmed real labs. I called the Firefly Kratom phone number. Pretty damn shocking that someone would have the capital to do labs import the leaf and all that and then be such a shit head and sell and smoke rock I worry about people with history of that type of substance being pushed over the edge if offered something like that. So this is a bad situation I feel sorry for the guy honestly but that type of thing we cannot have. I should have blocked my number before calling 😆
SaucySack96 02/21/2023 6:21 PM
Was it the guy from reddit that answered? Or was it just someone from firefly? I'm just curious if dude is an imposter posing as a vendor for Crack money 😅
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Was it the guy from reddit that answered? Or was it just someone from firefly? I'm just curious if dude is an imposter posing as a vendor for Crack money 😅
Ant-Reloaded 02/21/2023 6:23 PM
Had to have been him. Dude was all over when asking about kratom. Unfortunately firefly is not being impersonated in my opinion.
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It’s a google voice number but he called me back when I called
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Had to have been him. Dude was all over when asking about kratom. Unfortunately firefly is not being impersonated in my opinion.
SaucySack96 02/21/2023 6:25 PM
Damn, lol. The shit we've learned from people's public comment and post history 😅 dude went full blown Mit Monster lol.
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Damn, lol. The shit we've learned from people's public comment and post history 😅 dude went full blown Mit Monster lol.
Ant-Reloaded 02/21/2023 6:29 PM
For real he did. Didn’t even have to dig at all with this clown. No crazy ass backgrounds to run or rabbit holes to send people down or freaking regents testing to be done. Dude made it as easy as possible. But he could have a legit good thing going bc Murray brown said I was the second person to call over firefly and he said the labs are legit and not ripped. However the labs are almost a year on one and almost 6 months on the other so he could have been in good standing at one time and fell off. Hate to see it bc he’s stocked in vape shops pics are posted on Instagram and people wearing his tshirts
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Kbsassy 02/21/2023 6:37 PM
It was a wtf moment like we can see you, dude. He hadn't posted since November on Instagram so where have he been.
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It was a wtf moment like we can see you, dude. He hadn't posted since November on Instagram so where have he been.
Ant-Reloaded 02/21/2023 6:40 PM
Ohhh nice. Hadn’t noticed the post dates.
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Kbsassy 02/21/2023 6:47 PM
You would think they would have new labs for new products.
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Reeko 02/21/2023 6:54 PM
So what did this dude do? If you don't mind summarizing it for me.
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I missed something somewhere
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Reeko 02/21/2023 7:03 PM
Nm. I just looked at his reddit. Whatever he's accused of he is most definitely guilty
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For real he did. Didn’t even have to dig at all with this clown. No crazy ass backgrounds to run or rabbit holes to send people down or freaking regents testing to be done. Dude made it as easy as possible. But he could have a legit good thing going bc Murray brown said I was the second person to call over firefly and he said the labs are legit and not ripped. However the labs are almost a year on one and almost 6 months on the other so he could have been in good standing at one time and fell off. Hate to see it bc he’s stocked in vape shops pics are posted on Instagram and people wearing his tshirts
Self Care MC 02/21/2023 7:07 PM
@Funk emailed them earlier too that’s why
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For real he did. Didn’t even have to dig at all with this clown. No crazy ass backgrounds to run or rabbit holes to send people down or freaking regents testing to be done. Dude made it as easy as possible. But he could have a legit good thing going bc Murray brown said I was the second person to call over firefly and he said the labs are legit and not ripped. However the labs are almost a year on one and almost 6 months on the other so he could have been in good standing at one time and fell off. Hate to see it bc he’s stocked in vape shops pics are posted on Instagram and people wearing his tshirts
Mitra Mike Extractz 02/21/2023 7:10 PM
Yeah I had been following him on Instagram myself to and he was def legit and doing it right but that's not a good look tbh
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Nm. I just looked at his reddit. Whatever he's accused of he is most definitely guilty
BD 02/21/2023 7:42 PM
Can you link me in DMs please?
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BD 02/21/2023 10:37 PM
From the ad copy: Manaa is a blend of Natural Herbs and Nootropics that was designed to take the place of Kratom due to the looming illegality promised by the FDA. Tianaa is a very successful and well-known national product that has shown considerable growth in many States. Master Distributers are needed to continue the extensive growth rate.
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That's from that trade magazine I got in the mail today
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Funk 02/21/2023 10:44 PM
Dang
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Perfect replacement
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From the ad copy: Manaa is a blend of Natural Herbs and Nootropics that was designed to take the place of Kratom due to the looming illegality promised by the FDA. Tianaa is a very successful and well-known national product that has shown considerable growth in many States. Master Distributers are needed to continue the extensive growth rate.
Ant-Reloaded 02/21/2023 10:59 PM
Holy shit !!!
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Holy shit !!!
BD 02/21/2023 11:00 PM
Yep
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BD 02/21/2023 11:01 PM
They add Sakae naa in there. That's the added ingredient I believe
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Cae 02/21/2023 11:06 PM
What's methysticum
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Funk 02/21/2023 11:06 PM
Kava
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Cae 02/21/2023 11:07 PM
So kava, sake naa, and tianeptine?
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I’m trying to ask you about the ordeal
WestKoastBotanicals 02/21/2023 11:08 PM
Happened to me. Chunky. Said it was cut in shipping, his wife was angry it made a mess and asked for a replacement. When he didn't get tracking until the following day he asked for his money back which I gave.
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Happened to me. Chunky. Said it was cut in shipping, his wife was angry it made a mess and asked for a replacement. When he didn't get tracking until the following day he asked for his money back which I gave.
Ant-Reloaded 02/21/2023 11:14 PM
We’ve had pretty much all our vendors say he has ripped em
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From the ad copy: Manaa is a blend of Natural Herbs and Nootropics that was designed to take the place of Kratom due to the looming illegality promised by the FDA. Tianaa is a very successful and well-known national product that has shown considerable growth in many States. Master Distributers are needed to continue the extensive growth rate.
Down2Earth 02/21/2023 11:14 PM
This infuriates me
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Cae 02/21/2023 11:16 PM
Bruh same company
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Ant-Reloaded 02/21/2023 11:16 PM
None of this has any kratom ?
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Cae 02/21/2023 11:16 PM
Nope
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Down2Earth 02/21/2023 11:17 PM
That’s ACTUAL gas station heroin
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I hate that shit
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It’s disgusting to see it glorified in a magazine like that
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Ant-Reloaded 02/21/2023 11:17 PM
They used to make these here
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We’ve had pretty much all our vendors say he has ripped em
Kbsassy 02/21/2023 11:17 PM
If he threatens to tell about the "hair" in his kratom, unless he is refunded or new products, that is blackmail right?
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Down2Earth 02/21/2023 11:17 PM
It’s pure hell coming off that stuff
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Worst I’ve ever experienced , and I’ve experienced it all
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If he threatens to tell about the "hair" in his kratom, unless he is refunded or new products, that is blackmail right?
Ant-Reloaded 02/21/2023 11:18 PM
I’d def interpret it that way !
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Down2Earth 02/21/2023 11:18 PM
Jesus combining Tia and kratom , wtf
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Cae 02/21/2023 11:18 PM
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They carry some delta stuff and then everything else is tianeptine, phenibut, etc
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Jesus combining Tia and kratom , wtf
Ant-Reloaded 02/21/2023 11:19 PM
Saw it locally a while back when buying vape cartridges. Told em to stop carrying it if they plan on selling kratom explained to em how bad it is and it will cause local ban. Went in a week after and it was gone.
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This infuriates me
BD 02/21/2023 11:19 PM
You and me both
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Saw it locally a while back when buying vape cartridges. Told em to stop carrying it if they plan on selling kratom explained to em how bad it is and it will cause local ban. Went in a week after and it was gone.
Down2Earth 02/21/2023 11:20 PM
Dude that is a horrifying combo. The dudes at my gas station used to praise tianaa having no clue how addictive it was. Before it got banned here almost every time I went into a local gas station at least one person was buying them
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I’d def interpret it that way !
Kbsassy 02/21/2023 11:21 PM
They might not want to file charges but they have proof to get his cash app report for fraud.
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Ant-Reloaded 02/21/2023 11:21 PM
Let’s all when we all have time dig into them and see if they are in anyway still making anything with kratom and I’ll write up something very detailed and professional making a statement that kratom consumers do NOT want this type of thing associated etc and have as many vendors and advocates sign it as possible
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Down2Earth 02/21/2023 11:21 PM
I just know the massive withdrawal wave hit after that ban
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Yeah def don’t want it mixed up with our plant. That shit is poison
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I thought they had gotten rid of it everywhere
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But that’s sad to see
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Cae 02/21/2023 11:21 PM
There's something called TD Red but I can't find the ingredients anywhere
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They might not want to file charges but they have proof to get his cash app report for fraud.
Ant-Reloaded 02/21/2023 11:22 PM
He’s hit quite a few of em also. There’s certainly $1,000 dollars in fraud. I got his information for Tim. This guy has a very violent history
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I thought they had gotten rid of it everywhere
Ant-Reloaded 02/21/2023 11:23 PM
MitraMike found it locally not too long ago too. Was the exact same one hulu
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There's something called TD Red but I can't find the ingredients anywhere
Ant-Reloaded 02/21/2023 11:23 PM
Yep I gave up on Td until you linked it to me
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I gotta find out if TD or mt are making anything with kratom still. Looks like it’s stopped but there’s prob a ton of stock floating around
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There's something called TD Red but I can't find the ingredients anywhere
Kbsassy 02/21/2023 11:42 PM
I found the ingredients for it. I am going to pm.
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Funk 02/21/2023 11:57 PM
https://www.burmanshealthshop.com/products/td-red-tianeptine-extra-strength/
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Proprietary Blend : 720mg Tianeptine , Gaba , Yagona Leaf
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BD 02/22/2023 12:01 AM
https://www.burmanshealthshop.com/products/hulu-kratom-extra-tianeptine-strength/
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They're still selling this shit
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Kbsassy 02/22/2023 12:05 AM
So it looks like TD is the one making Hulu so they are making products with kratom in it.
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Ant-Reloaded 02/22/2023 12:05 AM
Oh dear !!
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So it looks like TD is the one making Hulu so they are making products with kratom in it.
Ant-Reloaded 02/22/2023 12:06 AM
This is bad
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Tired to leave a review saying this is bad for kratom but I guess gotta be verified buyer
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formerlysoflo 02/22/2023 12:13 AM
This is a fucking joke Tia is a nightmare smh terrible and sad marketing attempt
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Ant-Reloaded 02/22/2023 12:24 AM
Omg I’ve seen this at the convience store
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Cae 02/22/2023 12:24 AM
It's fucking wild
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Comes in 8oz bottles (16 servings) can you imagine if someone drank the whole bottle?
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Ant-Reloaded 02/22/2023 12:26 AM
If a kratom vendor chooses to sell something like this I think they should be ostracized from the community. Well that would certainly kill someone 16 servings
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Cae 02/22/2023 12:31 AM
100%
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BD 02/22/2023 12:33 AM
That's insane
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These products are insane
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The people creating them.... Can take a long walk off a very short pier
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Funk 02/22/2023 12:37 AM
Oh wow this is the craziest one I’ve seen yet by a mile
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That site has an impressive selection of horrible products
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Cae 02/22/2023 12:41 AM
Yeah I'm finding a lot of things that make me say WTF
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Cae 02/22/2023 12:57 AM
And again
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Ant-Reloaded 02/22/2023 1:03 AM
Two racetams in one pill….
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Cae 02/22/2023 1:05 AM
Yeah I gotta stop I'm too far down the rabbit hole
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Ant-Reloaded 02/22/2023 1:05 AM
https://youtu.be/lGtUBzEQ84o
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MT Brands at Supplement Events
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Cae 02/22/2023 1:11 AM
Yeah phrenze is a big no-no
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Kbsassy 02/22/2023 1:14 AM
Looks like the TD Mega has Hulu extract in it.
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Looks like the TD Mega has Hulu extract in it.
Ant-Reloaded 02/22/2023 1:16 AM
Sure the hell does ! Oh this is not good. I’m wondering about all this now…well there’s an right there pain and body relief. This Bs gives our enemies just a ton of ammunition.
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BD 02/22/2023 1:39 AM
The combretum quadraguiare leaf is the sakae naa. Not the piper one. Brain hiccup before
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Looks like the TD Mega has Hulu extract in it.
Down2Earth 02/22/2023 7:40 AM
Wtffff dude
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Morons. What the hell is “Hulu extract” anyways. Just shows their ignorance
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They're still selling this shit
Kreepi Tiki Tea 02/22/2023 7:55 AM
This is terrible!!!
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Steeler45$ 02/22/2023 7:57 AM
They can sell this stuff??
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Kreepi Tiki Tea 02/22/2023 8:09 AM
They should not be able to Imho
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Cae 02/22/2023 10:13 AM
All of these "enhanced nootropics" shouldn't be legal.
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v᲼ 02/22/2023 10:57 AM
Tbh here in WV almost every Kratom product sold in physical stores seems dangerous. (Oops thought I was in #chat ) (edited)
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EqualRoof 02/22/2023 12:48 PM
I think if we could show anti-kratom advocates they we are against these synthetics, then maybe they’ll see our side better.
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I think if we could show anti-kratom advocates they we are against these synthetics, then maybe they’ll see our side better.
Reeko 02/22/2023 1:22 PM
I feel like they would just twist the words around and try to say we are backing all those dirty synthetics
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BD 02/22/2023 1:30 PM
We could, but some of those people are just gonna do what @Reeko said TBH..I mean they stole a pic from here and edited to make the aminta mushrooms say "kratom" on it, why wouldn't they twist this?
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ThatOnePlaceGJ 02/24/2023 3:46 AM
That Red Dawn company doesn't have dextromethorphan in their products. The Fevizia blend is the phenibut + GABA + Potentiator. They also did get sued to all hell because people were getting sick and dying from their products. They were ordered to remove all phenibut from the products because it was ruled unsafe for consumables. I did want to correct no product of theirs I've been able to find contains any DXM though. Regardless the speedball effect of their blends is astonishingly dumb. I bet people loved getting fucked up from it, but it was also intensely dangerous.
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ThatOnePlaceGJ 02/24/2023 3:53 AM
That Purple Magic with a couple tweaks could be a freaking epic nootropic stack! Tianeptine in lower doses can be medically beneficial, and cognitively beneficial. The issue is people abuse these powerful grey area substances and hurt themselves. I will say, shoving a shit ton of RC's into a pill without extensive testing is probably not a good idea. I'm a nootropic nerd, and have taken plenty of the ingredients inside of that or similar compounds. Created my own stacks, done shit piles of research into them. I am all for RC's in general. BUT keep them away from kratom and stop pushing these "magic pills". They are RESEARCH chemicals. Not approved items for mass market consumption.
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That Red Dawn company doesn't have dextromethorphan in their products. The Fevizia blend is the phenibut + GABA + Potentiator. They also did get sued to all hell because people were getting sick and dying from their products. They were ordered to remove all phenibut from the products because it was ruled unsafe for consumables. I did want to correct no product of theirs I've been able to find contains any DXM though. Regardless the speedball effect of their blends is astonishingly dumb. I bet people loved getting fucked up from it, but it was also intensely dangerous.
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This is where I got the DXM from so thank you for correcting
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That Purple Magic with a couple tweaks could be a freaking epic nootropic stack! Tianeptine in lower doses can be medically beneficial, and cognitively beneficial. The issue is people abuse these powerful grey area substances and hurt themselves. I will say, shoving a shit ton of RC's into a pill without extensive testing is probably not a good idea. I'm a nootropic nerd, and have taken plenty of the ingredients inside of that or similar compounds. Created my own stacks, done shit piles of research into them. I am all for RC's in general. BUT keep them away from kratom and stop pushing these "magic pills". They are RESEARCH chemicals. Not approved items for mass market consumption.
Cae 02/24/2023 9:18 AM
Yeah, I'm all for RCs and nootropics but as you said, label them as such. Don't put all natural on your products, and don't make it sound safe when some of these ingredients haven't been tested enough to assume safety.
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Nelson Baboon 02/24/2023 3:32 PM
good god - tianeptine sounded familiar, so i searched my emails, and sure enough - i bought a bunch of stuff (including that) from a company called Blue Brain Boost, a few years ago. and then researched a bit more, and found that the couple that ran it were sent to jail....
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BD 02/24/2023 6:06 PM
Are these people serious right now? Treating kratom use in people with methadone? This isn't a "kratom" problem, this is a "them" problem as they'd abuse any substance it seems. Some people just can't control themselves apparently. I also think a lot of this is straight BS from anti kratom people.
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Want to be mad for awhile? Read this https://wmjonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/120/1/stanciu.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0cX9l9Z_cMN755CI_ttzRB8Jj-fcJOumkkvrAF-agTjW8s6_qO_jadfm0
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Funk 02/24/2023 6:23 PM
$2,500/month 🤣
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24mg is a LOT of fucking suboxone.
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Nelson Baboon 02/24/2023 6:50 PM
2500 a month on kratom? how in the world does someone manage that?
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v᲼ 02/24/2023 7:27 PM
omg kratom use disorder
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24mg is a LOT of fucking suboxone.
Mitra Mike Extractz 02/24/2023 7:29 PM
That is def alot of subs
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Are these people serious right now? Treating kratom use in people with methadone? This isn't a "kratom" problem, this is a "them" problem as they'd abuse any substance it seems. Some people just can't control themselves apparently. I also think a lot of this is straight BS from anti kratom people.
Kreepi Tiki Tea 02/24/2023 7:48 PM
This is absolutely insane
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24mg is a LOT of fucking suboxone.
BD 02/24/2023 8:44 PM
This
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ThatOnePlaceGJ 02/25/2023 12:36 AM
I've seen, heard, and talked to multiple people who went to methadone, suboxone, and buprenorphine clinics to get off of kratom. There's multiple articles online talking about buprenorphine as an "effective" method of quitting kratom.
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I've seen, heard, and talked to multiple people who went to methadone, suboxone, and buprenorphine clinics to get off of kratom. There's multiple articles online talking about buprenorphine as an "effective" method of quitting kratom.
BD 02/25/2023 12:08 PM
How about a common sense taper? I mean I've stopped taking kratom 3 separate times. The first I was dosing about 3.5g per dose and was around 13g per day ( I think that's right, 4-5 doses of 3.5g. let's go with 5 doses because I know I had days with that many)... I tapered and jumped off at 0.5g I had been taking kratom daily for a year and a half. I took 3-4 months to taper. Was like kicking caffeine kinda. I had one 24 hour period that I was a bit shaky on. The next day that was gone and I just had a little runny nose, watery eyes thing happening for a few days. I don't get these people taking naloxone or buprenorphine to get off kratom. You're trading a plant with a weaker affinity for the opiate receptors (mu in particular, kratom has a pretty weak affinity for it), for a synthetic with a higher affinity for the mu opioid receptors.... That makes zero sense to me.
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But ok, I guess they can endure Suboxone or buprenorphine WD then after all that, shits gonna be worse than kratom ever was, but ok
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But ok, I guess they can endure Suboxone or buprenorphine WD then after all that, shits gonna be worse than kratom ever was, but ok
drainerpack 02/25/2023 2:54 PM
Holy shit! That is a LOT of suboxone! I didn’t even take THAT much when I was coming off heroin injections! 😳
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Holy shit! That is a LOT of suboxone! I didn’t even take THAT much when I was coming off heroin injections! 😳
drainerpack 02/25/2023 2:55 PM
Please tell me that’s a joke 😢
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Please tell me that’s a joke 😢
BD 02/25/2023 3:20 PM
Not a joke. Sorry. I wish it was
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Funk 02/25/2023 3:27 PM
I mean it’s a bit of a joke, just not the funny kind
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How about a common sense taper? I mean I've stopped taking kratom 3 separate times. The first I was dosing about 3.5g per dose and was around 13g per day ( I think that's right, 4-5 doses of 3.5g. let's go with 5 doses because I know I had days with that many)... I tapered and jumped off at 0.5g I had been taking kratom daily for a year and a half. I took 3-4 months to taper. Was like kicking caffeine kinda. I had one 24 hour period that I was a bit shaky on. The next day that was gone and I just had a little runny nose, watery eyes thing happening for a few days. I don't get these people taking naloxone or buprenorphine to get off kratom. You're trading a plant with a weaker affinity for the opiate receptors (mu in particular, kratom has a pretty weak affinity for it), for a synthetic with a higher affinity for the mu opioid receptors.... That makes zero sense to me.
joesullly7 02/25/2023 7:21 PM
I used kratom to come off of suboxone. That stuff is not easy to come off of and I was only 8mg daily for 2 years. 16-24mg is a lot.
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I used kratom to come off of suboxone. That stuff is not easy to come off of and I was only 8mg daily for 2 years. 16-24mg is a lot.
Ant-Reloaded 02/25/2023 7:22 PM
Congrats
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joesullly7 02/25/2023 7:22 PM
Thank you 🙏 I must be close to a month off of subs and haven’t felt this good in a long time. Wasn’t aware it was clouding my mind as much as it was.
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Thank you 🙏 I must be close to a month off of subs and haven’t felt this good in a long time. Wasn’t aware it was clouding my mind as much as it was.
Ant-Reloaded 02/25/2023 7:23 PM
Certainly!! I know many who have made the jump successfully and feel so much better. Someone just said they got down to 2 and then made the jump and it was great
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Thank you 🙏 I must be close to a month off of subs and haven’t felt this good in a long time. Wasn’t aware it was clouding my mind as much as it was.
Reeko 02/25/2023 8:29 PM
I've been off em for 2 years now thanks to kratom. As time goes by your mental health will improve. I now find myself genuinely happy in life. Couldn't have done it without kratom
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Thank you 🙏 I must be close to a month off of subs and haven’t felt this good in a long time. Wasn’t aware it was clouding my mind as much as it was.
g0tkiLt? 02/25/2023 8:46 PM
Glad to hear it!
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Superior Extracts 02/28/2023 2:32 AM
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It'll definitely give you a laugh lol
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Ant-Reloaded 02/28/2023 3:26 AM
I’d say their calculations are not correct
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EqualRoof 02/28/2023 9:17 AM
That sounds like a guy I’ve seen on Reddit
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g0tkiLt? 02/28/2023 9:44 AM
Wtf
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BD 02/28/2023 11:46 AM
What that person is ignoring completely is: hydrocodone is a full agonist with a higher affinity for the mu (and other receptors, but mu is the primary one), while the alkaloids particularly Mit and 7-oh are partial agonists and both have a weaker affinity for the receptors. Meaning that every receptor while it might get filled (think of it like a key, doesn't necessarily mean the lock gets turned on every receptor. Also, read this:
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we compared the opioid receptor binding activity of speciofoline, mitragynine, and 7-hydroxymitragynine. Mitragynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine function as partial agonists of the human µ-opioid receptor, while speciofoline does not exhibit measurable binding affinity at the µ-, δ- or ƙ-opioid receptors. Importantly, mitragynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine demonstrate functional selectivity for G-protein signaling, with no measurable recruitment of β-arrestin.
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So they didn't even take into account that all the alks in kratom are partial agonists and not full agonists like morphine or hydrocodone. 🤷🏼‍♀️
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herbsandmusic 03/03/2023 10:41 PM
Bruh 💀
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Superior Extracts 03/03/2023 11:34 PM
I know right its ridiculous but that post was from like 2010 so im sure there was alotttt less research on it then
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herbsandmusic 03/04/2023 9:47 AM
Oh okay. Well at least it's like 13 years old rather than recent lmao
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Reeko 03/08/2023 9:33 PM
I got into the kda fb group so I'm posting screenshots here for you guys since I have access
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They're not all interesting, but I figured I'd just send screenahots of everything
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BD 03/08/2023 10:31 PM
These people are insane. Stealing pics, photoshopped pics, and they don't even know what they're talking about. The stupid it burns!
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Kruso37 03/08/2023 10:38 PM
I’m speechless…this is just such total bullshit to see how they misrepresented our members post. This sounds like some crazy ass conspiracy theory talk. There’s no reasoning with stupid, ignorant and self righteous people. People like that don’t change their mind even when they’re proven wrong
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Reeko 03/08/2023 10:40 PM
Yeah. It makes me sick reading this shit
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She's got quote a few posts about kendell. He gets under her skin. It's awesome
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Superior Extracts 03/08/2023 10:41 PM
This is what happens when you give stay at home women the internet
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v᲼ 03/08/2023 11:26 PM
Wtf
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That’s actually disturbing (oops thought this was #chat ) (edited)
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Reeko 03/08/2023 11:29 PM
She's got a post about gabby too but from some reason the picture isn't loading on the post unless I click it
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That second one is what happens when you click it
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Superior Extracts 03/09/2023 12:40 AM
The industry is massive in Florida I doubt anything will happen
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Lots of tax dollars that won't come in if it's banned
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Reeko 03/09/2023 12:42 AM
Yeah I only posted that because it was just made a few minutes ago. Every time they post something new I'm gonna post it here so you guys get live updates
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Superior Extracts 03/09/2023 12:43 AM
Awesome thank ya
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They blocked me bc I tried to tell them taking a quarter million extract shots wasnt possible lol
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ThatOnePlaceGJ 03/09/2023 6:09 AM
Those calculations are likely based on binding affinity which has nothing to do with the effects. When tested for efficacy 7-OH performs about on par with morphine but is far safer. The binding affinity is strong though, which is actually good and why it is such a good replacement for opioids. Naloxone has an insanely strong affinity but literally just blocks receptors it isn't "Stronger"
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If they're comparing strength by amount, then yes 7-OH is technically more powerful pound for pound, but again far safer, and a little goes a very long way. All of the alkaloids have a balancing act that plays out. Multiple studies have shown this
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Those calculations are likely based on binding affinity which has nothing to do with the effects. When tested for efficacy 7-OH performs about on par with morphine but is far safer. The binding affinity is strong though, which is actually good and why it is such a good replacement for opioids. Naloxone has an insanely strong affinity but literally just blocks receptors it isn't "Stronger"
Superior Extracts 03/09/2023 6:13 AM
Well they also assumed mit and 7oh made up 100% of the alkaloids
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ThatOnePlaceGJ 03/09/2023 6:15 AM
7-OH accounts on average for like .01%
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Mitragynine on the high end 2%. Total alk content rarely exceeds 3.5-4%
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Mitragynine on the high end 2%. Total alk content rarely exceeds 3.5-4%
Superior Extracts 03/09/2023 6:18 AM
Those are his calculations for .42g of 55% mit extract
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By his calculations 3mg of 55% extract = 15mg of oxycodone
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And half a gram of 55% extract is equal to 150 15mg doses of oxycodone lol
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By his calculations 3mg of 55% extract = 15mg of oxycodone
ThatOnePlaceGJ 03/09/2023 6:21 AM
I see that now. There is so much wrong with that it's hard to even know where to start. There is almost 0% 7-OH in a 55% and conversion in the liver is pretty low. Mitragynine was shown to have a "substantial non opioid mechanism" and actually doesn't do a whole lot in the way of being an opioid.
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I see that now. There is so much wrong with that it's hard to even know where to start. There is almost 0% 7-OH in a 55% and conversion in the liver is pretty low. Mitragynine was shown to have a "substantial non opioid mechanism" and actually doesn't do a whole lot in the way of being an opioid.
Superior Extracts 03/09/2023 6:22 AM
Oh I know I saw that and I was bewildered with how incorrect his calculations are
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ThatOnePlaceGJ 03/09/2023 6:23 AM
Taking a look at the community, there's not a whole lot of people popping 200+mg of mit at a time either.
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I'd say avg dose is 45mg-75mg and a few straying towards 100-150mg. Not very many people can handle 200+mg
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Reeko 03/09/2023 8:33 AM
Looks like something spooked them. They just made the group unreachable again
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They used my post from reddit
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Nice. I'm like famous now or something
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Kruso37 03/09/2023 12:50 PM
Wow, they’re watching everything, everywhere…don’t they have anything better to do?
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Self Care MC 03/09/2023 12:50 PM
Lol if you notice @Ant-Reloaded posted both and made it a point to show the fda warnings on the back
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I'd say avg dose is 45mg-75mg and a few straying towards 100-150mg. Not very many people can handle 200+mg
mooncusser901 03/09/2023 12:55 PM
Not many people can do that at all. I’m one of the people who, unfortunately do it sometimes, but I frown about doing it myself
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Lol if you notice @Ant-Reloaded posted both and made it a point to show the fda warnings on the back
Reeko 03/09/2023 12:58 PM
Yeah. I saw that. Those people are insane.
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Ant-Reloaded 03/09/2023 1:02 PM
That bitch is gonna shit the bed when she gets my letter
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That bitch is gonna shit the bed when she gets my letter
Reeko 03/09/2023 1:03 PM
I can't wait. I've never hated anyone as much as I hate her before
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They did boot me out. They knew something was up. Either they have someone in here still or idk
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formerlysoflo 03/09/2023 1:16 PM
Damnnnn
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That hurts lol
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That hurts lol
Ant-Reloaded 03/09/2023 1:21 PM
Won’t cost that much to make her ass fly down into my town or she can get a default judgement. And I’ll get every vendor I can think of to toss me a little of filing fees and what not.
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formerlysoflo 03/09/2023 1:22 PM
Absolutely… bro just the message itself, it’s like lady use your head. Smarten up. Smh lol
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Reeko 03/09/2023 1:35 PM
I did get a ton of screenshots before I got booted. So I can post em here if anyone wants them.
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I did get a ton of screenshots before I got booted. So I can post em here if anyone wants them.
Ant-Reloaded 03/09/2023 1:35 PM
Plz do it might help break the code
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Reeko 03/09/2023 1:36 PM
Alright. Some are gonna be duplicates from last night.
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Reeko 03/09/2023 2:28 PM
I don't think there is, but if there were a way mods can see members of their own reddit sub we could figure out who she is
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She's in smallbatch, and we know what her little profile thumbnail looks like
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I don't think there is, but if there were a way mods can see members of their own reddit sub we could figure out who she is
Ant-Reloaded 03/09/2023 2:33 PM
Solid solid solid point
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This is good intelligence
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They’re planing on banning in Cleveland
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Reeko 03/09/2023 2:34 PM
Wth. I hope it doesn't actually happen
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Wth. I hope it doesn't actually happen
Ant-Reloaded 03/09/2023 2:37 PM
She’s only on our sub not vendors or other subs
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She’s only on our sub not vendors or other subs
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I noticed that
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fawn_mower 03/09/2023 2:50 PM
🙋‍♀️ I have also been fired from the group
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I did however manage to get into the other group lol
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I didn't really look for too much here, I snapped at random in case I got booted but so far..
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I'll have to peruse in depth short
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*shortly
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this is the Families Against Kratom group on FB
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mooncusser901 03/09/2023 2:54 PM
What a bunch of fucking pussyS
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Kreepi Tiki Tea 03/09/2023 2:55 PM
Holy crap. Unbelievable!!
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fawn_mower 03/09/2023 2:55 PM
this group is far smaller
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someone... who knows who... had been in previously and posted pro kratom material which ruffled their feathers- I think it's in the screen grabs I posted- evidently they accustomed to infiltration
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🙋‍♀️ I have also been fired from the group
Reeko 03/09/2023 2:57 PM
Someone in the discord channel most likely is still a spy
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fawn_mower 03/09/2023 2:58 PM
I have to assume that @Reeko and I got walked because they've got eyes in here
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yep
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@Reeko brother have you tried joining up for this one yet
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Reeko 03/09/2023 2:58 PM
I'll try now
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fawn_mower 03/09/2023 2:59 PM
it's smaller and not as active, but the overall flavor is the same
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big ups to @Ant-Reloaded for his love note to miss Wendy
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that was ✨️✨️
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Reeko 03/09/2023 3:01 PM
Lol it was
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When they make the kda group public again I'll join it on my wife's account
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fawn_mower 03/09/2023 3:01 PM
if I'm being honest it's hard not to empathize with some of these folks who are genuinely hurting because they've lost loved ones, but their anger is misplaced and no amount of facts or sense-talking is gonna change their mind
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haha I'm going to need a fakie
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too bad because I'm a vault on fb
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Reeko 03/09/2023 3:07 PM
Imho, you guys should boot everyone with no chat history that's been here for awhile
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Imho, you guys should boot everyone with no chat history that's been here for awhile
EqualRoof 03/09/2023 3:08 PM
I think we did that recently.
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Reeko 03/09/2023 3:08 PM
Ah. So then it's someone who talks
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Idk. The first two people I checked have been here for months with no chat log
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Ofc they could be someone we know
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fawn_mower 03/09/2023 3:11 PM
that's fucking creepy
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Reeko 03/09/2023 3:31 PM
It is. I'm willing to bet it's one of those people
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fawn_mower 03/09/2023 3:32 PM
that's some sleeping with the enemy bs
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Reeko 03/09/2023 3:32 PM
Haha it definitely is.
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fawn_mower 03/09/2023 3:34 PM
certainly can't wait to ferret out the that or twats
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Reeko 03/09/2023 3:40 PM
Figuring this shit out is like my new obsession now.
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Idk. The first two people I checked have been here for months with no chat log
BD 03/09/2023 3:41 PM
Keep checking and running them past me. Because if I don't know them, I'll bring it up to the powers that be
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Keep checking and running them past me. Because if I don't know them, I'll bring it up to the powers that be
Reeko 03/09/2023 3:51 PM
Gotcha. I'll make a list
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Gotcha. I'll make a list
BD 03/09/2023 4:19 PM
Thank you
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certainly can't wait to ferret out the that or twats
g0tkiLt? 03/09/2023 4:22 PM
Thot*
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I think we did that recently.
BD 03/09/2023 7:05 PM
We need to do it again actually. There are still people here with no chat history. I'm waiting on Ant. He'll say the next steps
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We need to do it again actually. There are still people here with no chat history. I'm waiting on Ant. He'll say the next steps
EqualRoof 03/09/2023 7:23 PM
Roger dogger.
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Funk 03/10/2023 12:43 AM
I feel like they’d post screenshots from here if they still had a spy in here
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and they do have a spy in here that is active
Ant-Reloaded 03/10/2023 2:40 AM
Assume 5-10
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I feel like they’d post screenshots from here if they still had a spy in here
Reeko 03/10/2023 7:24 AM
They don't have anything worthwhile to post from here. So all they can do is spy on us. Someone definitely knew we got in. Neither one of us posted in there. Would be too weird of a coincidence that they made the group private and booted us within 12 hours of us getting in
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Overdose_hippy 03/10/2023 7:25 AM
Damn man, that's why I really ain't been posting bruh
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MadmanR1 03/10/2023 9:54 AM
I get to reading that stuff and wondering if I should quit. It actually is effective at scaring me, like I’m playing with death and don’t even know it. I logically know this not to be true after this many years but it’s hard not to have empathy.
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I get to reading that stuff and wondering if I should quit. It actually is effective at scaring me, like I’m playing with death and don’t even know it. I logically know this not to be true after this many years but it’s hard not to have empathy.
Reeko 03/10/2023 10:22 AM
Almost all those statistics and testimonies are greatly blown out of proportion. Obviously Almost all the overdoses are from something else on top of kratom like fentanyl. The lethal dose from kratom is basically impossible
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MadmanR1 03/10/2023 12:56 PM
Ugh. Well propaganda works on me. I could be equally convinced it’s the solution to all problems by that group’s spiritual counterparts. Truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Don’t mix it in your kids cheerios as the best supplement ever, but also it’s not gonna ruin your life, you end up living under a bridge, die of powder overdose.
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Reeko 03/10/2023 1:01 PM
I mean, Tylenol kills more people every year than kratom (edited)
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@SACRED RIVERS TEA Co.
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maengDamn 03/10/2023 8:45 PM
In those screenshots where Wendy is talking about how a vendor was saying he almost went bankrupt due to salmonella , that was a convo he was having with me. He's not a vendor and hasn't been for many years. But the best part is that he was not even talking about kratom. He was talking about ayahuasca.
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In those screenshots where Wendy is talking about how a vendor was saying he almost went bankrupt due to salmonella , that was a convo he was having with me. He's not a vendor and hasn't been for many years. But the best part is that he was not even talking about kratom. He was talking about ayahuasca.
Ant-Reloaded 03/10/2023 8:48 PM
That’s the con game right there right fuck in there they posted that about superior extracts not having proper labeling it was on the fucking back of the package
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maengDamn 03/10/2023 8:49 PM
Exactly. These people are the biggest bullshitters.
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Exactly. These people are the biggest bullshitters.
Ant-Reloaded 03/10/2023 8:52 PM
I’m actually talking with a girl right now from Kda. Reasonable and sensible because I know everything I say is screenshot and put back in that group. But luckily I have Training on conflict de-escalation lol contrary to popular belief and I know how to open up a conversation with someone even after they’ve said nasty things or been hostile.
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maengDamn 03/10/2023 8:54 PM
Getting through to her at all? I give u props bc I don't have the patience for these people at all. They drive me crazy! I empathize with their grief but other than that, my God
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I’m actually talking with a girl right now from Kda. Reasonable and sensible because I know everything I say is screenshot and put back in that group. But luckily I have Training on conflict de-escalation lol contrary to popular belief and I know how to open up a conversation with someone even after they’ve said nasty things or been hostile.
Self Care MC 03/10/2023 8:55 PM
Better man than me i sympathize for people that have lost a loved on or hurting like fawn mower said but this shit some of these people say makes me want to punch a hole in the wall
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Getting through to her at all? I give u props bc I don't have the patience for these people at all. They drive me crazy! I empathize with their grief but other than that, my God
Self Care MC 03/10/2023 8:55 PM
Lmao sameeee
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Better man than me i sympathize for people that have lost a loved on or hurting like fawn mower said but this shit some of these people say makes me want to punch a hole in the wall
Ant-Reloaded 03/10/2023 8:57 PM
Absolutely but I took an aggressive unsolicited message she sent me and turned it into a reasonable discussion. Luckily she’s a very reasonable person. And I dropped government training on her to just calm down and talk it out. If someone is open to civil discussion I am also and luckily she’s a good person who was.
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Lmao sameeee
maengDamn 03/10/2023 8:58 PM
Just the mention of them gives me a headache lol
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Self Care MC 03/10/2023 8:58 PM
Yup I’m all for civil discussions but the majority of them are passed that and so close minded regardless what info you may have
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maengDamn 03/10/2023 8:59 PM
Yes. Their minds are made up, unfortunately. Maybe not all, but most.
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Yup I’m all for civil discussions but the majority of them are passed that and so close minded regardless what info you may have
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maengDamn 03/10/2023 9:05 PM
Hahaha this is so funny
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Just talkin bout fish
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Marlin fishing really does look insane. Lol.
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Marlin fishing really does look insane. Lol.
Ant-Reloaded 03/10/2023 9:09 PM
Hell yeah it does people die doing it. The back and forth between us the last hour is too much to post but it’s really good conversation and some things I told her if she posts it the rest of em will take down bc it’s good and solid like relapse and recidivism and how many can actually die over bans etc. it’s reasonable and she’s a good person. It may not go anywhere at all but she is getting something and I’m getting something also. She is cool she may not see my points but she atleast is receptive to dialogue.
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Hell yeah it does people die doing it. The back and forth between us the last hour is too much to post but it’s really good conversation and some things I told her if she posts it the rest of em will take down bc it’s good and solid like relapse and recidivism and how many can actually die over bans etc. it’s reasonable and she’s a good person. It may not go anywhere at all but she is getting something and I’m getting something also. She is cool she may not see my points but she atleast is receptive to dialogue.
maengDamn 03/10/2023 9:10 PM
Hey, that's something.
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Ant-Reloaded 03/10/2023 9:10 PM
That was me, bass attack smaller fish or fish that are weak or injured
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Hey, that's something.
Ant-Reloaded 03/10/2023 9:11 PM
I really hope she does screenshot and post what I sent to her bc it’s good Gravy
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I really hope she does screenshot and post what I sent to her bc it’s good Gravy
maengDamn 03/10/2023 9:12 PM
Hopefully she does. I rly don't see why we can't come find a middle ground with these people. If what they truly care about is keeping people safe, we should be able to.
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That was me, bass attack smaller fish or fish that are weak or injured
beebop 03/10/2023 9:18 PM
Yeah was talking about the other guy not you. Lol
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Marlin fishing really does look insane. Lol.
BD 03/10/2023 9:48 PM
My SO went marlin fishing with his dad years ago. He's got the wildest stories about it. One day I'll get him in chat to tell them. I personally like to jig for bass.... I used to tightline for channel cats, but I don't have the strength anymore to throw my line the however many meters it is, to hit the good channel were they all are. Pics related: it's the pubic Lakeshore park that's about 3.5 miles away from me. I usually jig in a spot called Turtle Creek, it's basically a public area in the back of the subdivision by the same name. But as long as your quiet, respectful and clean up after yourself, none of the residents mind if you fish quietly there. I'll get a pic of it next time I'm there (edited)
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I really hope she does screenshot and post what I sent to her bc it’s good Gravy
Reeko 03/10/2023 9:50 PM
As soon as they open their group back up I'm joining it on my wife's account. I had her post some stuff today about how kratom ruined her life so that if they look at her page it looks legit (edited)
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I'm gonna have her post shit like that every day
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My SO went marlin fishing with his dad years ago. He's got the wildest stories about it. One day I'll get him in chat to tell them. I personally like to jig for bass.... I used to tightline for channel cats, but I don't have the strength anymore to throw my line the however many meters it is, to hit the good channel were they all are. Pics related: it's the pubic Lakeshore park that's about 3.5 miles away from me. I usually jig in a spot called Turtle Creek, it's basically a public area in the back of the subdivision by the same name. But as long as your quiet, respectful and clean up after yourself, none of the residents mind if you fish quietly there. I'll get a pic of it next time I'm there (edited)
maengDamn 03/10/2023 9:51 PM
This place looks beautiful!
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I like watching fishing shows and the episodes where they fish for marlin are the coolest, definitely. Personally I enjoy fly fishing. My dad is a big fly fisherman and there's some really good trout fishing here in NY
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Self Care MC 03/10/2023 9:53 PM
Lmao
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Reminds me of the time i copied and pasted 500 page whale documentaries and sent them too pppl
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Reminds me of the time i copied and pasted 500 page whale documentaries and sent them too pppl
maengDamn 03/10/2023 9:54 PM
Now I want to do this lmao
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Self Care MC 03/10/2023 9:55 PM
I do like fishing but i usually spend more time casting and reeling that actually catching lol
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Got the whole damn chat talking bout fish now you fucking mastermind @Ant-Reloaded 😆
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My SO went marlin fishing with his dad years ago. He's got the wildest stories about it. One day I'll get him in chat to tell them. I personally like to jig for bass.... I used to tightline for channel cats, but I don't have the strength anymore to throw my line the however many meters it is, to hit the good channel were they all are. Pics related: it's the pubic Lakeshore park that's about 3.5 miles away from me. I usually jig in a spot called Turtle Creek, it's basically a public area in the back of the subdivision by the same name. But as long as your quiet, respectful and clean up after yourself, none of the residents mind if you fish quietly there. I'll get a pic of it next time I'm there (edited)
Ant-Reloaded 03/10/2023 9:56 PM
I bet he was fighting that damn thing I’d def like to hear and get some heads ups lol. Hell most grown men don’t have the strength for channel cats. Beautiful place it’s really pretty
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I do like fishing but i usually spend more time casting and reeling that actually catching lol
maengDamn 03/10/2023 9:56 PM
It's alright. As long as you're having fun 🙂
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Reminds me of the time i copied and pasted 500 page whale documentaries and sent them too pppl
Ant-Reloaded 03/10/2023 9:56 PM
Hahahahahahahahaahahhaahaha
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Reminds me of the time i copied and pasted 500 page whale documentaries and sent them too pppl
Ant-Reloaded 03/10/2023 9:56 PM
What was their reaction ?
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I bet he was fighting that damn thing I’d def like to hear and get some heads ups lol. Hell most grown men don’t have the strength for channel cats. Beautiful place it’s really pretty
BD 03/10/2023 9:59 PM
He's napping now, but I will ask him to join and tell it, they did swordfish too I believe. It was definitely deep sea open water fishing
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Self Care MC 03/10/2023 10:00 PM
Idk this was like in middle schools and someone was petty so i had to be pettier and have the last laugh. You just gave me flashback vibes of 500 page whale documentaries i didn’t even remember until that moment a few mins ago
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He's napping now, but I will ask him to join and tell it, they did swordfish too I believe. It was definitely deep sea open water fishing
Ant-Reloaded 03/10/2023 10:01 PM
Bet he was worn out loool it’s a once in a lifetime experience
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Idk this was like in middle schools and someone was petty so i had to be pettier and have the last laugh. You just gave me flashback vibes of 500 page whale documentaries i didn’t even remember until that moment a few mins ago
Ant-Reloaded 03/10/2023 10:01 PM
It was a good troll in middle schooo
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Self Care MC 03/10/2023 10:01 PM
The phone would just vibrate for like 30 minutes straight cuz messages kept coming in. 500 word limit per text or something and sent 20,000 words lmao
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The phone would just vibrate for like 30 minutes straight cuz messages kept coming in. 500 word limit per text or something and sent 20,000 words lmao
Ant-Reloaded 03/10/2023 10:01 PM
Hahahahahahahahaa that was triggering
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Self Care MC 03/10/2023 10:02 PM
Yup cuz you can turn your phone off to make it stop but the second it turns back on all those messages are still flowing in
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Bet he was worn out loool it’s a once in a lifetime experience
BD 03/10/2023 10:02 PM
Yeah, he says he'd love to do it again if he got the chance. I miss my father in law, he was just an awesome person all around. I have the best in laws ever 💯
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Yeah, he says he'd love to do it again if he got the chance. I miss my father in law, he was just an awesome person all around. I have the best in laws ever 💯
Ant-Reloaded 03/10/2023 10:03 PM
It def sounds like it. You’ll always have them memories money can’t buy that
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Yup cuz you can turn your phone off to make it stop but the second it turns back on all those messages are still flowing in
Ant-Reloaded 03/10/2023 10:05 PM
I got in trouble in high school because I got caught with a CD and downloading Quake 2 onto the network so we could play on LAN parties from anywhere computers were in 2003 this really the pinnacle of waking up everyday to play Quake at school. It was a constant game of cat and mouse but it wasn’t the only cd. I got banned from the library for an month unless it was official schoolwork lol. This deeply offended me so I went in and printed off the entire patriot act to all the printers.
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I got in trouble in high school because I got caught with a CD and downloading Quake 2 onto the network so we could play on LAN parties from anywhere computers were in 2003 this really the pinnacle of waking up everyday to play Quake at school. It was a constant game of cat and mouse but it wasn’t the only cd. I got banned from the library for an month unless it was official schoolwork lol. This deeply offended me so I went in and printed off the entire patriot act to all the printers.
BD 03/10/2023 10:06 PM
That's awesome
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Got the whole damn chat talking bout fish now you fucking mastermind @Ant-Reloaded 😆
BD 03/10/2023 10:08 PM
We need a fishing/hiking/bird watching/random outdoor activities channel imo 👀
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Self Care MC 03/10/2023 10:09 PM
Oh yeah i love when i get my hikes in 😅
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Oh yeah i love when i get my hikes in 😅
BD 03/10/2023 10:11 PM
I can't really hike up stuff, because I can't do the "down" part at all.... But I love walking on trails or fishing or bird watching.... There's a beautiful bird conservatory area just north of tht reservoir here. It's gorgeous and so many species take migration breaks there if you go at the right times 🦜😎
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Self Care MC 03/10/2023 10:11 PM
There’s this super cool “tank chair” I’d love to get one day
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There’s this super cool “tank chair” I’d love to get one day
BD 03/10/2023 10:12 PM
That sounds pretty awesome actually!
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Cost more then my car lol
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Yeah was talking about the other guy not you. Lol
Ant-Reloaded 03/10/2023 10:24 PM
Lol all good even if you were 😅
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ThatOnePlaceGJ 03/14/2023 8:44 PM
That's fuckin legit dude. You prepped for the apocalypse. Just need to add a few mods and it's twisted metal up in this bitch
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That's fuckin legit dude. You prepped for the apocalypse. Just need to add a few mods and it's twisted metal up in this bitch
Self Care MC 03/15/2023 9:45 AM
I hope so man one day i will
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I’d like to add these fuckers to the naughty list until they respond me because i took a chance on a sale with them over the summer i ordered RED BENT specifically for night time sleep doses and they sent me a “red green” if it was even a red in the bent bag even tho there website said fermented. I keep seeing this guy post in vendors of kratom and I’ve reach out a few times and multiple weeks ago. He won’t answer so i finally decided to comment on the post
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formerlysoflo 03/15/2023 11:26 AM
@Self Care MC that’s stuff does not look good bro smh
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zooming* ... the powder looks very coarse or maybe it's just my eyesight..cmiw
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@Self Care MC that’s stuff does not look good bro smh
Self Care MC 03/15/2023 11:39 AM
Yeah it was shit i took a chance cuz a sale but I’ve never heard of a red bent not being fermented
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zooming* ... the powder looks very coarse or maybe it's just my eyesight..cmiw
formerlysoflo 03/15/2023 11:39 AM
It looks super course lol
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I got in trouble in high school because I got caught with a CD and downloading Quake 2 onto the network so we could play on LAN parties from anywhere computers were in 2003 this really the pinnacle of waking up everyday to play Quake at school. It was a constant game of cat and mouse but it wasn’t the only cd. I got banned from the library for an month unless it was official schoolwork lol. This deeply offended me so I went in and printed off the entire patriot act to all the printers.
Superior Extracts 03/15/2023 11:36 PM
In highschool we used to print out party fliers and put a bs time and date on them and one of my buddies addresses and tape them up everywhere. Bathrooms, the cafeteria, classrooms, and slide them into peoples lockers, no place was safe.
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I got in trouble in high school because I got caught with a CD and downloading Quake 2 onto the network so we could play on LAN parties from anywhere computers were in 2003 this really the pinnacle of waking up everyday to play Quake at school. It was a constant game of cat and mouse but it wasn’t the only cd. I got banned from the library for an month unless it was official schoolwork lol. This deeply offended me so I went in and printed off the entire patriot act to all the printers.
Superior Extracts 03/15/2023 11:40 PM
Once he stopped talking to us because he was so pissed off we started making fliers with a picture of my other buddies car on it and put "for sale" with his phone number.🤣 there had to be a hundred or more we posted up.
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Once he stopped talking to us because he was so pissed off we started making fliers with a picture of my other buddies car on it and put "for sale" with his phone number.🤣 there had to be a hundred or more we posted up.
Ant-Reloaded 03/15/2023 11:43 PM
Hahahhhahahhahahah epic troll !!!!
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kendell 03/15/2023 11:44 PM
grievers I take it? How they must resent being thrown out of here
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Hahahhhahahhahahah epic troll !!!!
Superior Extracts 03/15/2023 11:46 PM
Nobody was safe from our antics even the teachers. We stole all the chairs out of classrooms multiple times so they'd go into their classroom after lunch and it would be completely empty besides their desk😂
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grievers I take it? How they must resent being thrown out of here
Superior Extracts 03/15/2023 11:47 PM
They never belonged here in the first place screw them
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It looks super course lol
Self Care MC 03/15/2023 11:47 PM
Straight off the swept up floor
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Nobody was safe from our antics even the teachers. We stole all the chairs out of classrooms multiple times so they'd go into their classroom after lunch and it would be completely empty besides their desk😂
Ant-Reloaded 03/15/2023 11:48 PM
Oh you have the ability to be an agent of chaos lol
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Oh you have the ability to be an agent of chaos lol
Superior Extracts 03/15/2023 11:49 PM
I shall be the orchestrator of all government coups from here forward
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Nobody was safe from our antics even the teachers. We stole all the chairs out of classrooms multiple times so they'd go into their classroom after lunch and it would be completely empty besides their desk😂
Ant-Reloaded 03/15/2023 11:49 PM
I super glued a dictionary to a desk and kept asking the teacher how to spell words and he said get the dictionary on that empty desk. He then went over and tried to pick it up and then tried to rip it up and the desk came up with it 😆
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Self Care MC 03/15/2023 11:50 PM
It’s all good bro i got some fire to make up for it
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I super glued a dictionary to a desk and kept asking the teacher how to spell words and he said get the dictionary on that empty desk. He then went over and tried to pick it up and then tried to rip it up and the desk came up with it 😆
Superior Extracts 03/15/2023 11:51 PM
Thats great we stole this one teacher's hole punch everyday for weeks so he couldn't use it and that pissed him off after awhile but we were his favorite class of like 10 years so he was cool about it
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Ant-Reloaded 03/15/2023 11:51 PM
@formerlysoflo quit showing off mbc dust sir
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formerlysoflo 03/15/2023 11:52 PM
I had some good ones lol
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@formerlysoflo quit showing off mbc dust sir
Superior Extracts 03/15/2023 11:53 PM
Dust is right
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Ant-Reloaded 03/15/2023 11:53 PM
I’ll take their 10% extract though lol
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Superior Extracts 03/15/2023 11:54 PM
I swear thats all I've ever bought before neb and it's a whole new world (edited)
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I’ll take their 10% extract though lol
Superior Extracts 03/15/2023 11:54 PM
I can get my hands on it through someone else that makes the same stuff
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The dude that taught him his ways of making it
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I can get my hands on it through someone else that makes the same stuff
Ant-Reloaded 03/15/2023 11:55 PM
I was gonna post this for the next review I do on your caps
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I was gonna post this for the next review I do on your caps
Superior Extracts 03/15/2023 11:56 PM
Beautiful how did you like them?
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I got some sweet blue and white caps in now to sorta go with the branding and to stand out
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It’s all good bro i got some fire to make up for it
formerlysoflo 03/15/2023 11:57 PM
All good bro I just couldn’t help but say how bad that stuff looked I’m sure you got plenty backup
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Beautiful how did you like them?
Ant-Reloaded 03/15/2023 11:57 PM
I wrote a review on em on Reddit last week but didn’t know if this next review was too much lol or a bad look
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Self Care MC 03/15/2023 11:58 PM
Lol it’s all good i charged it to the game but i still can’t believe that dude didn’t message me back. I called them out on there post about it
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My messages kindly state I’d like to get this resolved without bringing it to the public but they won’t respond i figured if i blasted them on the post we could get this fixed
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I wrote a review on em on Reddit last week but didn’t know if this next review was too much lol or a bad look
Superior Extracts 03/16/2023 12:01 AM
You're right I did see it and read it im gonna go see if there's any new comments I gotta reply to
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I got some sweet blue and white caps in now to sorta go with the branding and to stand out
formerlysoflo 03/16/2023 12:01 AM
The blue and white would be a nice touch for your branding but just know you might get some negative feedback or ppl complaining that they aren’t clear caps. Folks like to see what’s in em without having to open them. Especially extract… Which is why they buy caps as opposed to powder. This is just a thought from a business standpoint I’m simply sharing with you. Reason being I’ve been there before.
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@Superior Extracts side note I recently got an opportunity to try your 65 and 75 and they were both super nice 👌👌
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@Superior Extracts side note I recently got an opportunity to try your 65 and 75 and they were both super nice 👌👌
Superior Extracts 03/16/2023 12:03 AM
Hell yah thats what I like to hear!
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Lol it’s all good i charged it to the game but i still can’t believe that dude didn’t message me back. I called them out on there post about it
formerlysoflo 03/16/2023 12:03 AM
Exactly… I don’t blame you cuz
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Self Care MC 03/16/2023 12:03 AM
We gotta hold each other accountable.
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Hell yah thats what I like to hear!
formerlysoflo 03/16/2023 12:03 AM
Yessir they were A1 brother
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Nice job
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The blue and white would be a nice touch for your branding but just know you might get some negative feedback or ppl complaining that they aren’t clear caps. Folks like to see what’s in em without having to open them. Especially extract… Which is why they buy caps as opposed to powder. This is just a thought from a business standpoint I’m simply sharing with you. Reason being I’ve been there before.
Superior Extracts 03/16/2023 12:04 AM
I know I was thinking about that i know where you're coming from
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I'll see how it goes, worst case I can always go back to clear.
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I know I was thinking about that i know where you're coming from
formerlysoflo 03/16/2023 12:05 AM
Yeah brother I’m just trying to help… just looking out and speaking from experience just sharing my man… I have experience with it and just want good people to win
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Yeah brother I’m just trying to help… just looking out and speaking from experience just sharing my man… I have experience with it and just want good people to win
Superior Extracts 03/16/2023 12:07 AM
I appreciate it brother👊
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Superior Extracts 03/16/2023 12:08 AM
That things even got a wheelie bar if you get one were going to ls swap it and make it road legal
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That things even got a wheelie bar if you get one were going to ls swap it and make it road legal
Ant-Reloaded 03/16/2023 6:48 PM
You’re about to laugh !!!
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Reeko 03/16/2023 7:00 PM
That's fuckin incredible. They're scared shitless. They deleted the posts and everything
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That's fuckin incredible. They're scared shitless. They deleted the posts and everything
Ant-Reloaded 03/16/2023 7:03 PM
If she doesn’t think she’s getting one she’s dead wrong. I’ve already got a paralegal on it.
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Reeko 03/16/2023 7:05 PM
That's what makes it incredible. She started a fight that she's definitely going to lose now
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v᲼ 03/16/2023 7:06 PM
omg the irony... they're so self-unaware
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Reeko 03/16/2023 7:07 PM
That's what happens when you open your mouth and demonize something that helps so many people
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This turned my day from being absolute shit to one of the best days I've had in awhile
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g0tkiLt? 03/16/2023 7:15 PM
You bully!
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Kreepi Tiki Tea 03/16/2023 7:16 PM
Woah!! Unbelievable!!!
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If she doesn’t think she’s getting one she’s dead wrong. I’ve already got a paralegal on it.
Funk 03/16/2023 7:19 PM
Are you mentioning specific vendor names in the letter? If I were a vendor I may be concerned about retaliation like having websites or payment apps nuked
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Reeko 03/16/2023 7:21 PM
It's obvious who it's talking about because of the post they had to take down.
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Are you mentioning specific vendor names in the letter? If I were a vendor I may be concerned about retaliation like having websites or payment apps nuked
Ant-Reloaded 03/16/2023 7:23 PM
They named 3 vendors already and crossed that line. One of messaged her also
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Funk 03/16/2023 7:23 PM
Somebody could order something and put kratom in the notes or write something sketchy or illegal for that matter. I know a couple different vendors have had to redo their entire websites over the last couple months due to fuckery
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Funk
Somebody could order something and put kratom in the notes or write something sketchy or illegal for that matter. I know a couple different vendors have had to redo their entire websites over the last couple months due to fuckery
Ant-Reloaded 03/16/2023 7:24 PM
Yeah they did that to Mike already
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Reeko 03/16/2023 7:24 PM
That's always gonna be an ongoing battle unfortunately
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Funk 03/16/2023 7:25 PM
Just a thought 🤷‍♂️
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Reeko 03/16/2023 7:26 PM
I'm stoked that something got done/is getting done. When I went on that Facebook page I was more disgusted than I've ever been
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Those people are bad news all around
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Ant-Reloaded
You’re about to laugh !!!
Superior Extracts 03/16/2023 7:53 PM
Truely amazing they think we're the bullies, if someone doesn't mess with me I don't care at all. I wouldn't have messaged her if they didn't post stuff and lie about us first and lie about my products being unlabeled.
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Reeko 03/16/2023 8:07 PM
Yeah they did take it too far. I love how they blamed the people taking the pictures for holding it in their hands
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EqualRoof 03/16/2023 8:12 PM
She’s Reached true psycho potential.
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Reeko
Yeah they did take it too far. I love how they blamed the people taking the pictures for holding it in their hands
Superior Extracts 03/16/2023 8:16 PM
I told her what she said is equivalent to someone taking Tylenol out of the bottle then saying there's no warning label
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I told her what she said is equivalent to someone taking Tylenol out of the bottle then saying there's no warning label
Reeko 03/16/2023 8:18 PM
You kept it classy for sure. I saw that picture of your message
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Reeko
You kept it classy for sure. I saw that picture of your message
Superior Extracts 03/16/2023 8:19 PM
She's gotta look into that stuff it kills 10x more people annually😉
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EqualRoof
She’s Reached true psycho potential.
Ant-Reloaded 03/16/2023 8:31 PM
Certainly. But she sure was worried about getting sued. “I can be sued” oh you’re just fucking now realizing this ? I love the jailhouse lawyers telling her a cease and desist naming a business doesn’t meant shit. Ok lol they might actually be an ally 😆. There’s something out there something more damaging than any of this, she’s worried about dirt being dug. Simple solutions don’t throw stones in a glass house. She’s not getting anymore of my time but my friend who’s a paralegal and a kratom advocate sure is good at cranking these mfers out.
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Ant-Reloaded
Certainly. But she sure was worried about getting sued. “I can be sued” oh you’re just fucking now realizing this ? I love the jailhouse lawyers telling her a cease and desist naming a business doesn’t meant shit. Ok lol they might actually be an ally 😆. There’s something out there something more damaging than any of this, she’s worried about dirt being dug. Simple solutions don’t throw stones in a glass house. She’s not getting anymore of my time but my friend who’s a paralegal and a kratom advocate sure is good at cranking these mfers out.
EqualRoof 03/16/2023 9:18 PM
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Cae 03/19/2023 1:34 AM
"Mr Glowing Eyes" 🤣🤣
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kendell 03/19/2023 1:34 AM
glowing eyes? Sigh, they really will make anything up
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Cae 03/19/2023 1:35 AM
Lol no that's directly related to @Ant-Reloaded profile pic 🤣
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kendell 03/19/2023 1:36 AM
LOL
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kendell 03/20/2023 12:36 AM
if you're worried about dirt being dug, stop attacking good people over your stupidity. Rant over
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if you leave us alone, we won't be tempted to tear your life apart and expose the dirt. continue to and we absolutely will
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kendell
if you're worried about dirt being dug, stop attacking good people over your stupidity. Rant over
EqualRoof 03/20/2023 10:45 AM
Sounds like rant wasn’t over lol.
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Cae
"Mr Glowing Eyes" 🤣🤣
EqualRoof 03/20/2023 10:50 AM
Is that what someone called ant?! Mr. Glowing eyes? 🤣
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EqualRoof
Is that what someone called ant?! Mr. Glowing eyes? 🤣
BD 03/20/2023 11:35 AM
Yeah, because he had that profile pic for awhile. Remember?
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Yeah, because he had that profile pic for awhile. Remember?
EqualRoof 03/20/2023 11:48 AM
Yea I remember. That’s why I laughed.
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BD 03/20/2023 11:50 AM
I'm glad those people are getting a taste of their own medicine (so to speak)
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We're not out harming anyone. I won't even recommend kratom (unless say someone has a problem with harder substances, then I might because they'll do less harm with kratom than with their DOC)
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Cae 03/20/2023 12:00 PM
https://tenor.com/view/yes-simon-cowell-glowing-eyes-gif-16217022
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